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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:34:42 GMT, "Kurtz" <the
horror@HG.com> wrote:

>
><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>news:4323a3f4$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>
>> Kurtz wrote:
>> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>> > news:43226971$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Obwon wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  "They won't let
>> >>
>> >>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
>> >>>not," he said.
>> >>
>> >>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so that
>> >>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
>> >>scope of tasks being dealt with.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>When a tragedy or disaster occurs in Arizona, trained,
>> >>>skilled people are allowed to help without Federal
>> >>>Emergency Management Agency certification, he said.
>> >>>"But when a national disaster is in effect, federal
>> >>>rules take over and FEMA would have to approve it,"
>> >>>said Dudelston.
>> >>
>> >>Once the storm has past, Federal agencies do get involved.  They do not
>> >>want everyone to rush down to give aid, it would create anarchy and
>> >>dangerous situations.  That is the same that applies with state agency
>> >>runned efforts.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>"It's kind of sad people are being turned away, the
>> >>>minute they go into a federal situation, they just
>> >>>can't get in there," he said. "The problem is when
>> >>>something like this happens - when an area is declared
>> >>>a national disaster - you can't go in there. They don't
>> >>>know them (trained volunteers) from Adam, so they can't
>> >>>let them in," he said of federal officials.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>This statements is true of both Federal and State agencies.  To allow
>> >>everyone who wants to provide relief efforts in to a disaster zone
>> >>invites disaster and poses potential hazards for not only those being
>> >>helped but to those who are doing the helping.
>> >>
>> >>These agencies have to impose control over the area so that relief
>> >>efforts are coordinated and effective without putting the lives of those
>> >>helping in harms way.
>> >>
>> >>MRC
>> >
>> > You are clueless, aren't you? Wilfull, or ignorant?
>> >
>>
>>
>> No, you have demonstrated your utter inability to apply both common
>> sense and comprehension.  I am thankful that you are not in charge of
>> the efforts in New Orleans.  You would have gotten people killed.
>>
>> Point Set Match.  You have lost and continue to lose (2000, 2002, 2004,
>> 2006, 2008)
>
>Okay, here's the kicker.
>On Friday Sept. 1st I recvd an EMail from the U.S. Department of Homeland
>Security,
>Federal Emergency Management Agency. You see, I have DEEP experience on a
>piece of communications gear that few others around the nation have. In
>addition, I have spent 15 years of my life working with 2.7-13.2 GHz full
>duplex microwave gear mounted in large vans. I've put up 'the stick'( a 30
>foot mast ) in howling storms, in water up to the axles, nestled between two
>moaning Onan Gensets to allow 2 way video and multiband audio and data
>streams to be shared, and I have made the shots work. This kind of knowhow
>and experience is hard to find. I responded IMMEDIATELY: I told the Family
>good bye, and packed up my gear ( 2 racks full...), staged it all at my
>front door, and began waiting for the callback, and the transport to the
>staging area.
>
>And here I am 11 days later STILL waiting for the call. I did recieve a
>second EMail  Fri. the 9th: I would LOVE to share the details with you so
>that you might gather a clue or two, but....well it IS DHS/FEMA bidness, and
>they don't cotton to sharing their internal communications.
>
>So I spent my time ( cell and pager at the ready, able to deploy in 15
>minutes ) helping out at the Reliant Park clusterfuck. I wish you had been
>there to help disadvantaged people  ( who don't know a whole lot about
>computers ) apply for FEMA assistance, and search the various sites created
>to allow them to find their families, loved ones, children.........but I
>didn't see 'wrcowan-HAL-PC' on any name tags around me.....
>It has been a heartbreaking week.
>
>Punchline is I am PISSED at the political footdragging ( not the
>departmental or Ops )
>that stymied the rollout of gear that would have streamlined field
>communications, and maybe have saved a few lives.
>
>So when you popped up and popped off on any number of subjects that you
>haven't got the foggiest clue about, I vented my frustrations at you. And
>rightly so. It is the apologists, sycophants, spinners, ignoramouses, and
>disinfo agents like you that have allowed a criminal and incompetant junta
>to continue fooling all of the people some of the time, and some of the
>people all of the time.
>
>As to demonstrated utter inability to apply both common sense and
>comprehension skills, you have repeatedly proven that you are the poster
>child for Freeper cluelessness. You are the arm-chair Major of the 'all of
>the time' contingent.
>
>The 'game' is just starting: don't even begin to claim victory when you
>don't even know where the court is......
>

  Add...  The tvnooze stations had no trouble getting
continous feeds from the zone.  Wonder why "emergency"
people wouldn't have had equiptment at least as good?
After all,  one of the first theories of emergency work
is that emergency communications are necessary since
you expect the regular networks to be done.

  Obwon
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  Liars share with those they deceive 
  the desire not to be deceived.
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