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On Fri, 13 Jun 97 21:20:44 GMT, gallant@utk.edu (Gallant) wrote:

>I believe this subject was touched on a year or so ago- but here it goes
>again. Which transit systems out there maintain a historical fleet of buses
>(or even ONE old bus!).  Here in Knoxville, TN- KAT rehabbed a 1957 GMC Old
>Look which sits pretty in the garage most of the time.  KAT is trying to
>recover some of the old equipment, but it's a very costly venture.  
>
>Where is New York City's historical bus fleet?  NYC has a rich history of
>bus transportation (especially the wonderful New Look years of the 1960s-
>both GMC and Flxible).   Any suggestions (other than the Transit Museum in
>Brooklyn which deals mostly with rail transportation)?  How about the NYCDOT
>contractors like Queens Transit or Triboro Coach?  I know that Green Bus
>Lines and Jamaica Bus Lines have gotten rid of their GMC's and Flxibles many
>years ago.
>
>How about the San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose area?  MUNI (San Francisco)
>used to have a load of GMC New Looks in the late eighties (perhaps even
>later?)- and I think Golden Gate Transit had some as well but not sure about
>AC Transit, SCCTA or SamTrans.
>
San Francisco, MUNI, in the city well-known for public transit as
tourist trap, is running PCC streetcars down Market St. (The "F" line)
from the Transbay Bus Station to Castro Street. Each car has been
painted the colors of a different company or agency that ran such
cars.

In the past, they ran one day streetcar festivals which included cars
from different times and places around the world. 

AC Transit has been cut way back, so I'm not sure what's going on with
them. Their basic problem is that they used to make money on the buses
into San Francisco and that has been taken by BART, and BART is eating
a lot of the subsidy funds which would go to them if they were
distributed on the basis of daily passengers or maybe even passenger
miles. They barely have enough money to put up their officials at
fancy hotels in San Francisco during national conferences. (<g>)

I've noticed that they are now using minivans for some of their
lesser-used routes.

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