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In article <s1078395.358.2CFFAED0@cedarville.edu> s1078395@cedarville.edu (A nagy Istvan ) writes:
>In article <CHG1Mq.5vA@walter.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes:
>>In article <1993Nov29.202237.4924@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> rogersl@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu writes:
>>>In article <1993Nov18.172050.6534@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>, jgreely@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (J Greely) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>In general, armed self-defense in the home is legal, although you
>>>>should draw a distinction between "defending your home" (property,
>>>>that is), and "defending yourself and your family".  A criminal who
>>>>enters an occupied dwelling can be assumed to be prepared to deal with
>>>>resistance, and can be held at gunpoint for the police, or, if he
>>>>attacks you, shot.  If he tries to run away, he is no longer a threat
>>>>(even if he's got your thousand-dollar stereo), and you have no legal
>>>>right to shoot him.  In fact, if you chase after him and get into a
>>>>fight, you're most likely guilty of assault.
>
>>And that is one of the major things wrong in this country.  Anyone
>>should be able to protect his/her property using whatever force is needed.
>>If some human garbage thug is running off with my TV, VCR , why
>>shouldn't I be able to go after him and stop him?   Please...no
>>bleeding heart crap about the use of force not being warranted
>>for theft, etc.  Why do you think we have so much more crime today?
>
>True. I agree with you 100%

Is your property more valuable than someone else's life?  Is _this_ the
attitude our country was founded upon?  I think _NOT_.

Being a college student implies you understand the rewards of hard work.  Your
education (not necesarrily the degree), will make you more employable in the
future, as one reward.  Hopefully, you will find your life, to this point and
in the future a wonderful experience, because of this.

I assume someone important in your life (parents?) instilled values in you
that led you to higher education.  These people are most likely helping you to 
accomplish this goal, financially, emotionally, or both.  

You are fortunate.  

Some people are less fortunate: parents in jail, or dead, or abusive, etc.
They may not have been taught the same 'values' for respect of other's and 
their property.  Sometimes good people are driven to act against their nature
due to extreme circumstances.  Good people also make mistakes.

There is an immense difference between crimes against one's property and
crimes against a person.  Laws have reflected this for ages.

I recently experienced an attempted break-in to my car.  I chased some
theives away before they broke-in, but they still did $800 damage to the door.
I was outraged.  I wanted revenge.  I contemplated buying a shotgun.  Instead
I filed a claim with my insurance agent and they are paying for it to be
repaired.  Had I used a shotgun to protect my property, in 10 years I might
still be living with the knowledge I had taken another person's life.  Either
way in 10 years, my car will probably be a pile of scrap metal in a junk-yard,
long forgotten.

If your property is more valuable than some unknown person's life & health,
then our country has failed in teaching the basic premises of its constitution,
at least in your case.

Gerry Cermak
student

"We tend to idealize tolerance, then wonder why we find ourselves
 infested with losers and nut cases" - Patrick Hayden