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Re: Meijer - Shop at your own risk.

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From: J Greely
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 15:46
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In article <CHG1Mq.5vA@walter.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com
 (sohl,william h) writes:
>And that is one of the major things wrong in this country.  Anyone
>should be able to protect his/her property using whatever force is needed.

Taken literally, this would authorize land mines for kids who cut
across your lawn.  You might call that an "unreasonable" example, not
in keeping with the spirit of your statement, but you're asking for
the right to use lethal force in a non-life-threatening situation,
based on your hasty opinion of the character ("human garbage thug") of
the person involved.  Consider what happens when other people are
allowed to apply this rule to you; you might not realize that your
actions violate their interpretation of what is "reasonable" or
"criminal", and they blow your head off defending their property.
Ever gone up to the wrong car in a dark parking lot and tried to
unlock it?  *boom*

>Why do you think we have so much more crime today?

Something to do with the revolving-door nature of the "justice"
system, I would argue, given that roughly a third of the violent
crimes in the US are committed by persons on some form of early
release (parole, probation, bail, etc).  Population density and
poverty also have a lot to do with it: roughly ten percent of all the
violent crime in the US happens in New York City.

  We could always bring up things like quality of education and job
training, and the increasing number of people who are encouraged to
spend their entire lives taking government handouts and *not* taking
responsibility for their own lives and futures.


			"Neighbors!!  We got neighbors!  We ain't
			 supposed to have any neighbors, and I just
			 had to shoot one."
				-- Ron Post
-- 
J Greely (72604.3164@compuserve.com, jgreely@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu)
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From: jgreely@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
Subject: Re: Meijer - Shop at your own risk.
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