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Curt wrote:
> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>> Curt wrote:
>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Curt wrote:
>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> ~^*^~ wrote:
>>>>>>> It is not necessary to deport any of them if you prevent them from
>>>>> working
>>>>>>> in our country.  Do that and they'll go home.
>>>>>> No they won't social services will be overloaded which will make
> social
>>>>>> services happy because they can ask for a bigger budget next time
>>> around
>>>>>> hiring even more people who want to do as little as they can (Because
>>> of
>>>>>> being a govt employee) to get a check. Vicious circle. Do like they
> are
>>>>>> suppose to do and no more chain babies dropped her deport them and
> let
>>>>>> em cry their eyes out on the way back to Mexico and then the
> Presidente
>>>>>> of Mexico and the left can cry how cold callous the Republicans are.
>>>>>> Fine the holy piss out of companies that hiring the undocumented. It
>>>>>> will take awhile but it will send a strong message that we will not
>>> over
>>>>>> load our schools hospitals or public housing with people that do not
>>>>>> respect our laws. Worried about over crowding in jails with em? don't
>>> be
>>>>>> give em slop twice a day and they will not want to come back. We are
>>>>>> way, way way to generous to those who take jobs from others. If the
>>>>>> employers can't get cheap labor they will have to pay a better wage.
>>>>>> Increasing prices lower the tax burden on the lower wage earners or
>>>>>> eliminate it all together it will be like a wage increase to them
> which
>>>>>> means they will have more spendable income to stimulate the economy.
>>>>> I think just the "fine the holy piss" option would do just fine.
>>>> Disagree curt, they know damn well they are breaking the law. They are
>>>> criminals. If you are going to hand out justice and be fair about it
>>>> (Remember the blindfold on the statue of liberty?) it has got to be
>>>> across the board. You have to send a signal that this will not be
>>>> tolerated by any criminal be they a big criminal or a small one. That
> is
>>>> being fair.
>>>
>>> Well, no, they're not criminals. It's not a crime to be an illegal
> alien.
>>> You can't go to jail for it. You can only be deported.
>> Semantics! You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Don't dance be
>> honest. Wrong is wrong. If your going to bust the dealers then bust the
>> users too.
> 
> I do know exactly what you're talking about. You called illegal immigrants
> criminals. They're not. It's not a crime to be an illegal immigrant. Thus,
> you can't arrest and jail them. You can only deport them. Thus, focusing on
> employers is not ignoring some criminals while focusing on others. The only
> criminals here are the ones who hire illegal workers. Send some to jail.
> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>   These folks
>>>>> are coming here for work, after all, not for the company. If the work
>>> wasn't
>>>>> here, neither would be the folks. Another option -- just let them be
>>>>> citizens.
>>>> Bullcrap! Bullcrap! Bullcrap! If you did this, what kind of signal do
>>>> you think this will send to those NOT breaking the law and jumping the
>>>> line? Man think this through.
>>> I have, believe it or not. My deal is, I don't care if they're not
> white. I
>>> just want them to stop depressing wages. If they were legal workers,
> they
>>> wouldn't be depressing wages. They could unionize, refuse to work unpaid
>>> overtime, file OSHA complaints, etc etc. That's my only issue with
> illegal
>>> immigration.
>>>
>>> Curt
>>>
>>>
>> So really, the Union is your priority not what is the right thing for
>> this nation.
> 
> What's the "right thing for this nation" that's separate from the right to
> refuse to work unpaid OT, the right to unionize, the right of legal workers
> not to have their wages depressed by illegal low paid labor, the right to
> file OSHA complaints, etc?
> 
> Curt
> 
> 


Hey curt, this week end I have 3 guys coming over to cut 3 big branches 
off of a tree that is over my house in Tigard. They normally get paid 
during the week $13hr I plan to pay them $20hr yet I am a republican 
that does not hire union people. What do you call that? Just curious. 
Like I say for you it has to do with the Union NOT what is right.