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Curt said on 8/18/2006 1:59 AM:
> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>> Curt wrote:
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>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Curt wrote:
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>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:B_ydnWZ-msrFkkvZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
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>>>>>> ~^*^~ wrote:
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>>>>>>> It is not necessary to deport any of them if you prevent them from
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>>>>> working
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>>>>>>> in our country.  Do that and they'll go home.
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>>>>>> No they won't social services will be overloaded which will make
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> social
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>>>>>> services happy because they can ask for a bigger budget next time
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>>> around
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>>>>>> hiring even more people who want to do as little as they can (Because
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>>> of
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>>>>>> being a govt employee) to get a check. Vicious circle. Do like they
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> are
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>>>>>> suppose to do and no more chain babies dropped her deport them and
>>>>>>             
> let
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>>>>>> em cry their eyes out on the way back to Mexico and then the
>>>>>>             
> Presidente
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>>>>>> of Mexico and the left can cry how cold callous the Republicans are.
>>>>>> Fine the holy piss out of companies that hiring the undocumented. It
>>>>>> will take awhile but it will send a strong message that we will not
>>>>>>             
>>> over
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>>>>>> load our schools hospitals or public housing with people that do not
>>>>>> respect our laws. Worried about over crowding in jails with em? don't
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>>> be
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>>>>>> give em slop twice a day and they will not want to come back. We are
>>>>>> way, way way to generous to those who take jobs from others. If the
>>>>>> employers can't get cheap labor they will have to pay a better wage.
>>>>>> Increasing prices lower the tax burden on the lower wage earners or
>>>>>> eliminate it all together it will be like a wage increase to them
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> which
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>>>>>> means they will have more spendable income to stimulate the economy.
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>>>>> I think just the "fine the holy piss" option would do just fine.
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>>>> Disagree curt, they know damn well they are breaking the law. They are
>>>> criminals. If you are going to hand out justice and be fair about it
>>>> (Remember the blindfold on the statue of liberty?) it has got to be
>>>> across the board. You have to send a signal that this will not be
>>>> tolerated by any criminal be they a big criminal or a small one. That
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> is
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>>>> being fair.
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>>> Well, no, they're not criminals. It's not a crime to be an illegal
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> alien.
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>>> You can't go to jail for it. You can only be deported.
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>> Semantics! You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Don't dance be
>> honest. Wrong is wrong. If your going to bust the dealers then bust the
>> users too.
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> I do know exactly what you're talking about. You called illegal immigrants
> criminals. They're not. It's not a crime to be an illegal immigrant. Thus,
> you can't arrest and jail them. You can only deport them. Thus, focusing on
> employers is not ignoring some criminals while focusing on others. The only
> criminals here are the ones who hire illegal workers. Send some to jail.
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> Curt
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Gee, you are so good at being wrong you must have a Master Degree in Error.

Illegally entering the country IS a crime. It is a misdemeanor the first 
offense. Second offense you can get 6 months and a $1000 fine.

Most / all invaders also commit other crimes. Working illegally IS a 
crime. Even APPLYING for a job is a crime. Using false / forged ID to 
get a job IS a crime. Many of them buy phony Social Security cards that 
use REAL Social Security numbers which is Identity Theft and IS a crime.

The invaders are NOT innocent.

I can sympathize with their problem that they don't make enough money at 
home. But that problem should NOT be solved on the backs of legal 
American workers and taxpayers.

Taxpayers fund social programs for the benefit of citizens and the 
illegals use those benefits illegally every day. Several states are 
introducing legislation to stop it. But we also need to stop granting 
citizenship upon birth.

Thousands of pregnant Mexican women cross the border to have their 
babies in the U.S. and get citizenship and welfare for them. We are such 
dumb asses we even send the checks to their home in Mexico. Then, many 
times, they put the kid with a relative here and then apply to bring the 
whole family to join the member ( infant ) who is a citizen.

How stupid can we be to keep allowing this?

Obviously we as a country are very very stupid indeed. After all, we put 
Bush in office twice.

Enough said.

-- 
I don't hate Bush ... I hate what he DOES ... you're damned right I do.

No .. No .. I < do > hate Bush. I hate him BECAUSE of what he does.

So call me a proud Bush Hater.