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az-willie wrote:
> Curt said on 8/18/2006 1:59 AM:
>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
>> news:qPGdnVZxMs5DJ37ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>  
>>> Curt wrote:
>>>    
>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:_NGdnb1a3didEEvZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>      
>>>>> Curt wrote:
>>>>>        
>>>>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:B_ydnWZ-msrFkkvZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>> ~^*^~ wrote:
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>> It is not necessary to deport any of them if you prevent them from
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> working
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>> in our country.  Do that and they'll go home.
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> No they won't social services will be overloaded which will make
>>>>>>>             
>> social
>>  
>>>>>>> services happy because they can ask for a bigger budget next time
>>>>>>>             
>>>> around
>>>>      
>>>>>>> hiring even more people who want to do as little as they can 
>>>>>>> (Because
>>>>>>>             
>>>> of
>>>>      
>>>>>>> being a govt employee) to get a check. Vicious circle. Do like they
>>>>>>>             
>> are
>>  
>>>>>>> suppose to do and no more chain babies dropped her deport them and
>>>>>>>             
>> let
>>  
>>>>>>> em cry their eyes out on the way back to Mexico and then the
>>>>>>>             
>> Presidente
>>  
>>>>>>> of Mexico and the left can cry how cold callous the Republicans are.
>>>>>>> Fine the holy piss out of companies that hiring the undocumented. It
>>>>>>> will take awhile but it will send a strong message that we will not
>>>>>>>             
>>>> over
>>>>      
>>>>>>> load our schools hospitals or public housing with people that do not
>>>>>>> respect our laws. Worried about over crowding in jails with em? 
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>             
>>>> be
>>>>      
>>>>>>> give em slop twice a day and they will not want to come back. We are
>>>>>>> way, way way to generous to those who take jobs from others. If the
>>>>>>> employers can't get cheap labor they will have to pay a better wage.
>>>>>>> Increasing prices lower the tax burden on the lower wage earners or
>>>>>>> eliminate it all together it will be like a wage increase to them
>>>>>>>             
>> which
>>  
>>>>>>> means they will have more spendable income to stimulate the economy.
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> I think just the "fine the holy piss" option would do just fine.
>>>>>>           
>>>>> Disagree curt, they know damn well they are breaking the law. They are
>>>>> criminals. If you are going to hand out justice and be fair about it
>>>>> (Remember the blindfold on the statue of liberty?) it has got to be
>>>>> across the board. You have to send a signal that this will not be
>>>>> tolerated by any criminal be they a big criminal or a small one. That
>>>>>         
>> is
>>  
>>>>> being fair.
>>>>>         
>>>> Well, no, they're not criminals. It's not a crime to be an illegal
>>>>       
>> alien.
>>  
>>>> You can't go to jail for it. You can only be deported.
>>>>       
>>> Semantics! You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Don't dance be
>>> honest. Wrong is wrong. If your going to bust the dealers then bust the
>>> users too.
>>>     
>>
>> I do know exactly what you're talking about. You called illegal 
>> immigrants
>> criminals. They're not. It's not a crime to be an illegal immigrant. 
>> Thus,
>> you can't arrest and jail them. You can only deport them. Thus, 
>> focusing on
>> employers is not ignoring some criminals while focusing on others. The 
>> only
>> criminals here are the ones who hire illegal workers. Send some to jail.
>>
>>
>>   Curt
>>
>>
>>   
> =========
> Gee, you are so good at being wrong you must have a Master Degree in Error.
> 
> Illegally entering the country IS a crime. It is a misdemeanor the first 
> offense. Second offense you can get 6 months and a $1000 fine.
> 
> Most / all invaders also commit other crimes. Working illegally IS a 
> crime. Even APPLYING for a job is a crime. Using false / forged ID to 
> get a job IS a crime. Many of them buy phony Social Security cards that 
> use REAL Social Security numbers which is Identity Theft and IS a crime.
> 
> The invaders are NOT innocent.
> 
> I can sympathize with their problem that they don't make enough money at 
> home. But that problem should NOT be solved on the backs of legal 
> American workers and taxpayers.
> 
> Taxpayers fund social programs for the benefit of citizens and the 
> illegals use those benefits illegally every day. Several states are 
> introducing legislation to stop it. But we also need to stop granting 
> citizenship upon birth.
> 
> Thousands of pregnant Mexican women cross the border to have their 
> babies in the U.S. and get citizenship and welfare for them. We are such 
> dumb asses we even send the checks to their home in Mexico.

Wow! Now this I did not know. Talk about an eye opener.

  Then, many
> times, they put the kid with a relative here and then apply to bring the 
> whole family to join the member ( infant ) who is a citizen.

Chain babies.

> 
> How stupid can we be to keep allowing this?
> 
> Obviously we as a country are very very stupid indeed. After all, we put 
> Bush in office twice.
> 
> Enough said.
>