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Curt wrote:
> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>> Curt wrote:
>>> "Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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>>>> ~^*^~ wrote:
>>>>> It is not necessary to deport any of them if you prevent them from
>>> working
>>>>> in our country.  Do that and they'll go home.
>>>> No they won't social services will be overloaded which will make social
>>>> services happy because they can ask for a bigger budget next time
> around
>>>> hiring even more people who want to do as little as they can (Because
> of
>>>> being a govt employee) to get a check. Vicious circle. Do like they are
>>>> suppose to do and no more chain babies dropped her deport them and let
>>>> em cry their eyes out on the way back to Mexico and then the Presidente
>>>> of Mexico and the left can cry how cold callous the Republicans are.
>>>> Fine the holy piss out of companies that hiring the undocumented. It
>>>> will take awhile but it will send a strong message that we will not
> over
>>>> load our schools hospitals or public housing with people that do not
>>>> respect our laws. Worried about over crowding in jails with em? don't
> be
>>>> give em slop twice a day and they will not want to come back. We are
>>>> way, way way to generous to those who take jobs from others. If the
>>>> employers can't get cheap labor they will have to pay a better wage.
>>>> Increasing prices lower the tax burden on the lower wage earners or
>>>> eliminate it all together it will be like a wage increase to them which
>>>> means they will have more spendable income to stimulate the economy.
>>> I think just the "fine the holy piss" option would do just fine.
>> Disagree curt, they know damn well they are breaking the law. They are
>> criminals. If you are going to hand out justice and be fair about it
>> (Remember the blindfold on the statue of liberty?) it has got to be
>> across the board. You have to send a signal that this will not be
>> tolerated by any criminal be they a big criminal or a small one. That is
>> being fair.
> 
> 
> Well, no, they're not criminals. It's not a crime to be an illegal alien.
> You can't go to jail for it. You can only be deported.

Semantics! You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Don't dance be 
honest. Wrong is wrong. If your going to bust the dealers then bust the 
users too.


> 
> 
>>   These folks
>>> are coming here for work, after all, not for the company. If the work
> wasn't
>>> here, neither would be the folks. Another option -- just let them be
>>> citizens.
>> Bullcrap! Bullcrap! Bullcrap! If you did this, what kind of signal do
>> you think this will send to those NOT breaking the law and jumping the
>> line? Man think this through.
> 
> I have, believe it or not. My deal is, I don't care if they're not white. I
> just want them to stop depressing wages. If they were legal workers, they
> wouldn't be depressing wages. They could unionize, refuse to work unpaid
> overtime, file OSHA complaints, etc etc. That's my only issue with illegal
> immigration.
> 
> Curt
> 
> 

So really, the Union is your priority not what is the right thing for 
this nation.