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>> Jeff Flanagan wrote:
>> Hmmm, from everything I've heard CPS is a front for the fundies.
>> They place ads to make them look like a decent clinic, then harrass
>> and intimidate girls who are already having a hard time.   I find it
>> bizarre that you'd call PP one sided and think CPS isn't.
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>Papa Jack replies:
>That is very different from what I've heard, Jeff.

Perhaps we both hear what we want to hear.

>
>Please help us by providing the specific sources of your information.

Have you seen their advertisements?  They imply that they are an
abortion clinic, but this isn't one of their services.  They obviously
have the goal of stopping abortion, and mislead frightened women into
seeing them when looking to terminate a pregnancy.  I don't feel it's
a bad thing to help with other options such as adoption, social
services, and post-abortion counseling, but bringing women in under
false pretenses and showing them graphic photos of late abortions is
just sick.  

Try doing an altavista search on cps, you'll get a lot of "Christian"
organizations, including operation rescue. 

>
>Have you visited a CPS yourself?
>

No, fortunatly birth control has never failed me and my girlfriend and
we haven't had to go through that.  


>What is a "fundie?"

Fundamentalist Christian, but I suspect you already knew that.
>

>How do they go about "harrassing" and "intimidating" girls?  They
>normally do offer specific information on the pros and cons of
>abortions techniques -- the truth is a bit gruesome, as you know.

The truth of a late abortion is gruesome, an early one isn't.  Do you
think we should show anyone who's about to have surgery how gruesome
that is?  I wouldn't have a problem with CPS if they didn't use these
graphic and misleading methods.  If they just honestly approached the
subject I'd suggest that a woman with an unwanted pregnancy consult
with both Planned Parenthood and Crisis Pregnancy Centers to see all
the options and make an informed decision.

>
>You don't think PP is one-sided?  Come on -- that's a streach.
>They provide more abortions per year than any other organization
>in the U.S..  They are a chop shop.  

Please, chop shops is what we get if the christians managed to get
abortion banned.  Perhaps they are one sided, I don't know, but we
both know CPS is fraudulently presented as something it isn't.  They
are a one sided anti-abortion agency.



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