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Rob Hocker  <rah@teleport.com> wrote:
>Ray Fischer wrote:
[etc.]

>> Like I said.  A CPC will try to pursuade a woman to avoid an abortion
>
>Since you seem to be a little slow... the line above is the part I
>agree with and...
>
>> regardless of the consequences to her.
>
>the line above is the part I disagree with.

Suit yourself.  I know of no circumstance where a CPC would counsel 
a woman to get an abortion.

>> >They WILL NOT advocate anything that endangers the mother,
>> >either, since their stance is that life inside and outside the
>> >womb is precious.
>> 
>> They won't advocate anything except childbirth.  Given that the risks
>> from childbirth are rather higher than the risks from abortion, it's
>> clear that CPCs _do_ advocate that which endangers the mother.
>
>Given that what you state as "given" is not given at all, CPC's advocate
>what is best for *both* mother and child.

It's well known that the risk of dying from childbirth overall is ten
times higher than the risk of dying from an abortion overall.  If you
consider only first trimester abortions, then the difference becomes
even more dramatic since women don't die from 1st trimester abortions.

Also, referring to an embryo as a "child" is a bit of a reach.

>> >  Nor do CPC's have have a founder who was into eugenics
>> 
>> Just affiliates known for arson and assault and murder.
> 
>violent persons in the general population holding *any* view
>can hardly be compared to the *founder* of an organization.

Oh?  The anti-abortion leaders regularly advocate the use of violence
and commen the murder of doctors.  I know of no pro-choice leader of
advocate who has either committed murder or commended murder.

>> >and the destruction of blacks as a race, as Planned Parenthood has
>> >in it's founder Margaret Sanger.
>> 
>> Who has been dead for many years and who has no relevance at all to
>> today's Planned Parenthood.
>
>Except that they have *never* renounced her for what she stood for and
>believed in...

Maybe they've never denounced what you _claim_ she stood for.

-- 
Ray Fischer
ray@netcom.com