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In <3QLec.9114$2H4.3369@clgrps12> Oliver Wendell Jones wrote:
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> And what is a 'just war', one with the Jesus stamp of approval?

Hard one, but let me see...I suppose, inspite of all the recent events 
to the contrary, we can call WWII and just war in that that world was 
about to fall prey to one, possibly two, powerful regimes bent on 
genocide.

Gulf War part two: When Saddam was a friend of US foreign policy, he had 
an oppressive bent, but that didn't matter to the US: Saddam was their 
friend. Hell, they even gave him the intelligence and the WMD agents to 
kill some 8,000 Kurds, as well as several thousands of Iranians. (I 
guess at that time, the Kurds and the Iranians were bad to the US.) So, 
in the second Gulf War, the US not only calls Saddam an "enemy of 
humanity", but they say they ousting him to avenge the deaths of the 
Kurds and Shi'as he's killed. Just proves that US foreign policy is as 
two-faced as ever. And now, not only are the Sunnis the enemy insurgents, 
but all those victimized Shi'as have become enemies of the US. With all 
the modification of the truth going on here, one wonders is the Bush 
Administration thinks that everyone has short term memory like them.

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> What is an 'unjust war'?  Waged by evil devil people?

I suppose in the minds of the Iraqi insurgents, they are waging a just 
war against an imperial power that wants nothing more than to slaughter 
them wholesale in the name of oil and Geo. W. Bush's monster ego. 

In that case, not enough Americans will die, but here's to their efforts.





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> In article <20040412230750849-0600@news.telusplanet.net>, 
> shhh@dontaskdonttell.org says...
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>>In <iZIec.9092$2H4.6560@clgrps12> Oliver Wendell Jones wrote:
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>>> Rooney's article missed the mark.  Of course a war correspondant 
>>> couldn't ask  "do you think we're achieving our goals or should we 
>>> pull out?" now like they  used to in WW2, because in WW2 almost 
>>> everybody was onboard against the 'evil  nazi menace'.  It would 
>>> have  been unthinkable to even suggest retreat no matter  how steep 
>>> the  casualties.  This is why Rooney's analogy is useless, and more  
>>> than a  little disingenuous.  That whole patriotic anti-nazi 
>>> sentiment from  WW2  was shifted right into anti-communist sentiment, 
>>> fairly well  played domestic  strategy, in fact.
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>>So, all you mentioned was that Rooney, and those of his generation, 
>>knew  the difference between a just and unjust war.  Try again?
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