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Article #709Re: Scornful Mexican faults US Govt for providing SS to US citizens
From: jay
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:48
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:48
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WakeUp2005@adelphia.net wrote: > "Standing a half-block away, Jose Alvarez, 30 of Salem [who I > STRONGLY suspect is either an illegal alien or else initially snuck > into the country illegally and was amnestied], watched the protesters > with his arms crossed. > > "'This is the government's fault,' he said. "If the government > wasn't maintaining them with Social Security checks, they'd have to > find a job instead of spending time out here doing this.'" > > [UPDATE: Still no comment from Senor Alvarez -- *if* that's even his > real name -- on the contention, "If the narco-government of Mexico > wasn't actively encouraging its citizens to invade and colonize the > U.S. they'd have to actually fix their country instead of shipping > their problems north to the American People to deal with."] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050925/NEWS/509250334/1001 > > Peaceful protests don't stop immigrant program > > Mexico consulate offers assistance with documents, advice > > GABRIELA RICO > Statesman Journal > September 25, 2005 > > INDEPENDENCE -- Protesters peacefully carried signs and sang ballads > about the blight of illegal immigration Saturday during an event put > on by the Mexican government. > > Meanwhile, employees from the Mexican Consulate for Oregon, along with > representatives from several Oregon state departments, were undaunted > as they provided documents and resources to the more than 200 Mexican > nationals who arrived at Henry Hill Elementary School. > > Protesters, organized by Oregonians for Immigration Reform, decried > the state's participation in the event. > > Among the services offered at the daylong event were matricular > consular cards, Mexican birth certificates to children born in Oregon > and information about paying taxes, receiving health care and getting > a driver's license in the state. > > The president of OFIR, Jim Ludwick, said the group's goal was to make > Oregonians aware of the state's accommodation of illegal immigrants. > > "We're not protesting the Mexican consul general, but the state > agencies, especially the Oregon Department of Employment," he said. > "Why are they here?" > > Illegal immigrants create crowding in schools and drain social > services, Ludwick said. > > "The Oregon Health Plan is bankrupt," he said. "The reason is quite > obvious here." > > Protester Peter Dane, 62, of Keizer said that he is concerned about > the effects of increased immigration and worries that his neighbors > seem uninterested. > > "I want to counter the apathy in the citizens," he said. "Why doesn't > the (Oregon) governor sue the federal government for not enforcing > immigration laws?" > > Salem resident Jim Elvin, 70, stood in front of the school he attended > as a child. > > "This school that I went to 56 years ago is being degraded because of > the explosion of illegal immigration," he said. "This problem is > affecting every aspect of our lives." > > Most protesters directed their frustration at immigration policies and > the governments north and south of the border, but some see immigrants > as sinister. > > "They are selling drugs to our kids and raping our kids," said Daniel > Miglavs of Sherwood. "Our public officials, our state employees, are > in there right now aiding and abetting them." > > He defended his statement by waving a stack of papers that showed the > high rate of incarceration for Hispanics in Oregon. > > "They're disproportionately committing crimes versus the general > public," Miglavs said. "It really is an underlying crime syndicate." > > The three-hour demonstration included about 30 protesters who carried > signs and flew an American flag. > > Cindy Tilkens of Salem strummed a guitar and sang a ballad that she > composed. > > "They're coming here by thousands now; They used to run and hide; But > now we watch them breaking laws; Right before our eyes," she crooned. > > The peaceful tone of the morning was momentarily interrupted by a man > who drove past the school in a convertible jeep blaring the Mexican > dance tune, "Juana la Cubana." > > Sgt. Rick Igou of the Independence Police Department was joined by > five uniformed officers at the school, monitoring the crowd. > > "We're keeping the peace, and so far, that's been easy to do," he > said. > > Mexico's Consul General for Oregon, Fernando Sánchez Ugarte, said this > is the fourth time that the outreach program has drawn protesters. > > "There's no point," he said about the demonstration. "Our activity is > necessary to help these people. What we're doing is peaceful and > legal." > > Sánchez said there is no plan to eliminate or scale back the program, > quite the contrary. > > "Next year, we'll be increasing the number of events," he said. > "There's a lot of demand." > > Sánchez said that the consulate rented the school for $150 and brought > its own equipment. > > At one point, a group of curious neighbors walked to the school when > they saw the picket signs. > > "This is a disgrace," said Bridgett Currier, 20. "They just come here > to make a living for their family. Why can't we just live in peace?" > > Noe Nuñez, 21, shook his head. > > "I've never seen anything like this," he said about the protesters. > "This surprises me a lot and shows me what kind of people live in my > community." > > [I know -- REAL AMERICANS for a change!] > > As for the Mexican citizens who showed up for services, most seemed > unfazed. > > "We're only here to work," said Raul Aguirre, 29, who lives in Eugene. > > [No doubt that's EXACTLY what the 14 illegal aliens being held in > Florida for breaking into a woman's home, abducting her and gang > raping her would say the same.] > > "But, wherever we go, there are people like this." > > [You ain't seen nothing yet.] > > Standing a half-block away, Jose Alvarez, 30 of Salem, watched the > protesters with his arms crossed. > > "This is the government's fault," he said. "If the government wasn't > maintaining them with Social Security checks, they'd have to find a > job instead of spending time out here doing this." > > Protest organizer Rick Hickey of Salem, said he knows most illegal > immigrants are in Oregon to work. > > "Some guys are just here seeking a better life," he said. "Hey, that's > why I'm out here, too." > > > ************************************************************************ > Was this post informative? Consider printing it or emailing it to someone you know. > > "A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation . . . betrays [one nation] into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter . . . > "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. > "Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded." > > -- President George Washington > Farewell Address Are you not so proud of our government in Washington? Jay http://www.halturnershow.com/ Hal Turner Show
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X-Google-Thread: 10a18d,d3da375d077b1b8e,start X-Google-Thread: fb1cb,d3da375d077b1b8e,start X-Google-Thread: 1042ac,d3da375d077b1b8e,start X-Google-Thread: f7e76,d3da375d077b1b8e,start X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,d3da375d077b1b8e,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10a18d,gidfb1cb,gid1042ac,gidf7e76,gid1073ca,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "jay" <jay_stutz@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: or.general,seattle.general,soc.culture.usa,alt.military.retired,co.general Subject: Re: Scornful Mexican faults US Govt for providing SS to US citizens Date: 11 Oct 2005 18:48:40 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 189 Message-ID: <1129081720.023502.95760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <vgook15s06ct0vrihlnnv9ectj0ukjdn2q@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.87.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1129081727 12591 127.0.0.1 (12 Oct 2005 01:48:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:48:47 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <vgook15s06ct0vrihlnnv9ectj0ukjdn2q@4ax.com> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=162.42.87.10; posting-account=dOCG-A0AAAAHld3fkab_iD9VCLr-yPXR