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Re: Scornful Mexican faults US Govt for providing SS to US citizens

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From: jay
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:48
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WakeUp2005@adelphia.net wrote:
> "Standing a half-block away, Jose Alvarez, 30 of Salem [who I
> STRONGLY suspect is either an illegal alien or else initially snuck
> into the country illegally and was amnestied], watched the protesters
> with his arms crossed.
>
>   "'This is the government's fault,' he said. "If the government
> wasn't maintaining them with Social Security checks, they'd have to
> find a job instead of spending time out here doing this.'"
>
>   [UPDATE: Still no comment from Senor Alvarez -- *if* that's even his
> real name -- on the contention, "If the narco-government of Mexico
> wasn't actively encouraging its citizens to invade and colonize the
> U.S. they'd have to actually fix their country instead of shipping
> their problems north to the American People to deal with."]
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050925/NEWS/509250334/1001
>
> Peaceful protests don't stop immigrant program
>
> Mexico consulate offers assistance with documents, advice
>
> GABRIELA RICO
> Statesman Journal
> September 25, 2005
>
> INDEPENDENCE -- Protesters peacefully carried signs and sang ballads
> about the blight of illegal immigration Saturday during an event put
> on by the Mexican government.
>
> Meanwhile, employees from the Mexican Consulate for Oregon, along with
> representatives from several Oregon state departments, were undaunted
> as they provided documents and resources to the more than 200 Mexican
> nationals who arrived at Henry Hill Elementary School.
>
> Protesters, organized by Oregonians for Immigration Reform, decried
> the state's participation in the event.
>
> Among the services offered at the daylong event were matricular
> consular cards, Mexican birth certificates to children born in Oregon
> and information about paying taxes, receiving health care and getting
> a driver's license in the state.
>
> The president of OFIR, Jim Ludwick, said the group's goal was to make
> Oregonians aware of the state's accommodation of illegal immigrants.
>
> "We're not protesting the Mexican consul general, but the state
> agencies, especially the Oregon Department of Employment," he said.
> "Why are they here?"
>
> Illegal immigrants create crowding in schools and drain social
> services, Ludwick said.
>
> "The Oregon Health Plan is bankrupt," he said. "The reason is quite
> obvious here."
>
> Protester Peter Dane, 62, of Keizer said that he is concerned about
> the effects of increased immigration and worries that his neighbors
> seem uninterested.
>
> "I want to counter the apathy in the citizens," he said. "Why doesn't
> the (Oregon) governor sue the federal government for not enforcing
> immigration laws?"
>
> Salem resident Jim Elvin, 70, stood in front of the school he attended
> as a child.
>
> "This school that I went to 56 years ago is being degraded because of
> the explosion of illegal immigration," he said. "This problem is
> affecting every aspect of our lives."
>
> Most protesters directed their frustration at immigration policies and
> the governments north and south of the border, but some see immigrants
> as sinister.
>
> "They are selling drugs to our kids and raping our kids," said Daniel
> Miglavs of Sherwood. "Our public officials, our state employees, are
> in there right now aiding and abetting them."
>
> He defended his statement by waving a stack of papers that showed the
> high rate of incarceration for Hispanics in Oregon.
>
> "They're disproportionately committing crimes versus the general
> public," Miglavs said. "It really is an underlying crime syndicate."
>
> The three-hour demonstration included about 30 protesters who carried
> signs and flew an American flag.
>
> Cindy Tilkens of Salem strummed a guitar and sang a ballad that she
> composed.
>
> "They're coming here by thousands now; They used to run and hide; But
> now we watch them breaking laws; Right before our eyes," she crooned.
>
> The peaceful tone of the morning was momentarily interrupted by a man
> who drove past the school in a convertible jeep blaring the Mexican
> dance tune, "Juana la Cubana."
>
> Sgt. Rick Igou of the Independence Police Department was joined by
> five uniformed officers at the school, monitoring the crowd.
>
> "We're keeping the peace, and so far, that's been easy to do," he
> said.
>
> Mexico's Consul General for Oregon, Fernando Sánchez Ugarte, said this
> is the fourth time that the outreach program has drawn protesters.
>
> "There's no point," he said about the demonstration. "Our activity is
> necessary to help these people. What we're doing is peaceful and
> legal."
>
> Sánchez said there is no plan to eliminate or scale back the program,
> quite the contrary.
>
> "Next year, we'll be increasing the number of events," he said.
> "There's a lot of demand."
>
> Sánchez said that the consulate rented the school for $150 and brought
> its own equipment.
>
> At one point, a group of curious neighbors walked to the school when
> they saw the picket signs.
>
> "This is a disgrace," said Bridgett Currier, 20. "They just come here
> to make a living for their family. Why can't we just live in peace?"
>
> Noe Nuñez, 21, shook his head.
>
> "I've never seen anything like this," he said about the protesters.
> "This surprises me a lot and shows me what kind of people live in my
> community."
>
> [I know -- REAL AMERICANS for a change!]
>
> As for the Mexican citizens who showed up for services, most seemed
> unfazed.
>
> "We're only here to work," said Raul Aguirre, 29, who lives in Eugene.
>
>   [No doubt that's EXACTLY what the 14 illegal aliens being held in
> Florida for breaking into a woman's home, abducting her and gang
> raping her would say the same.]
>
>  "But, wherever we go, there are people like this."
>
>   [You ain't seen nothing yet.]
>
> Standing a half-block away, Jose Alvarez, 30 of Salem, watched the
> protesters with his arms crossed.
>
> "This is the government's fault," he said. "If the government wasn't
> maintaining them with Social Security checks, they'd have to find a
> job instead of spending time out here doing this."
>
> Protest organizer Rick Hickey of Salem, said he knows most illegal
> immigrants are in Oregon to work.
>
> "Some guys are just here seeking a better life," he said. "Hey, that's
> why I'm out here, too."
>
>
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>   "A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation . . . betrays [one nation] into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter . . .
>   "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government.
>   "Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded."
>
>   --  President George Washington
>       Farewell Address

Are you not so proud of our government in Washington?

Jay

http://www.halturnershow.com/  Hal Turner Show
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