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Article #112Want real censorship? Try this!
From: Angsto the Clown
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:00
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http://www.iwaynet.net/~angsto/illegalaction.htm This kind of nonsense has been dumped on me for 5 years. Forget Blumenthaul. This hits a bit closer to home. Angsto Jack Warner wrote: > Where was your indignation about free speech last week when Blumenthaul was > called before Star's grand jury for, allegedly, saying bad things about > Star and his prosecutors? > > I just wish the protesters at osu would have had something more > intelligent to say. > > Angsto the Clown (angsto@iwaynet.net) wrote: > : Well said. I applaud your speaking out what I'm sure echoes the > : feelings of > : many silent followers in this newsgroup. > > : Scott > > : susan@pop.service.ohio-state.edu wrote in message ... > : >> Garrett, > : >> > : >> Ever read up on the constitution or writings of Jefferson, Paine, > > : >> Mason, Madison, Washington, Franklin and on and on? Do so. It will > : >> open your eyes to the purpose of founding a nation and writing a > : >> constitution. Dissent, even LOUD dissent, is protected speech. The > : >> most foul and disagreeable speech is the speech that deserves the > : most > : >> protection and guarantees. Even the Supreme Court has said so many > : >> times. > : > > : >(Note: Text below was formatted for easier reading. No words were > : edited.) > : > > : >>U.S. SUPREME COURT: > : >>"Regulations which permit the Government to discriminate on the basis > : of > : >>the content of the message cannot be tolerated under the First > : Amendment." > : >> > : >>"[T]he fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient > > : >>reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that > > : >>gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it > : >>constitutional protection." > : > > : >>"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is > > : >>that the Government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply > : >>because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable." > : >> > : >> Excerpts from the Opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court > : >> > : >> <<<<profanity snipped>>>> > : >> Excerpt from 'Angsto, the man and the myth' > : >> > : >> Any public figure can and must be held up to ridicule and abuse, > : > > : >So we can do the same to you by that interpretation. > : >Where did you ever learn that they "must be held up to ridicule and > : abuse"? > : >Certainly not from your Supreme Court quote. It only refers to the > : right to > : >speak an idea/opinion even though it is "offensive or disagreeable". > : > > : >The disagreeement wasn't the problem, the presentation was. Those > : yelling > : >over the speakers were not letting the government the right of speaking > > : >THEIR opinion even though the yelling few found it "offensive or > : >disagreeable". It's a two way street. > : > > : >> especially those pinheads who attempt to sway public opinion > : > > : >Like those yelling their voices over all in the field house? > : > > : >> with shady deals and pictures of dead women and children! > : > > : >Saddam's the one who used the poison on his own people. > : > > : > > : >> As for old Saddam's propaganda machine, what planet do you live on? > : > > : >Third rock from the sun...need a vector to get back here? > : > > : >>Saddam doesn't need one nor does he have one. > : > > : >And your expertise and expert sources in the region tell you this? > : >Puhleeze! Tell me another fairy tale! > : > > : >> Puhleeze! Our fearless leaders do quite well blowing it out their > : >> a**es all by themselves without the help of some imaginary middle > : >> eastern disinformation network. > : > > : >Which network would that be? > : > > : >> Who needs disinformation? > : > > : >You seem to thrive on it! > : > > : >> One only needs to subscribe to someone like Iwaynet's newsfeeds. > : >> They suck so bad I didn't get this note there butthrough Dejanews! > : >> Real information is lost through poor technology and negligence. > : > > : >Well if Iwaynet is not meeting your standards why don't you find an ISP > > : >that will...if that's possible. > : >No one's chained you to Iwaynet (Have they?). > : > > : >>I have a grasp of the nature of the constitution and its bill of > : rights. > : > > : >Only as they seemingly apply to your desires. Get a grasp on the HUMAN > : >side of the bill of rights and you'll find that there must be a give > : and > : >take to survive and just because one can yell louder doesn't make > : him/her > : >right. > : > > : >> Read them and weep. > : > > : >I read your posts and weep for you and the venom that you speak. > : > > : >> Angsto > > : I find this kind of thing amazing. Meek individuals, admittedly > : "lurking yet not speaking" suddenly becoming so aroused by the written > : word of another they must respond. They not only respond, they respond > : to each and every line and statement with a simplistic, childish aside > : that shows only a grade school concept of the constitution and real > : debate. Screw you. Snipping naughty words and telling others they > : should "love it or leave it" is pinheaded at its ignorant best. These > : people are the perfect dupes of the politicians, blindly following any > : crap fed to them and buying into the fascist propaganda. Scott and Susan > : should get together and start a threatening letter writing campaign to > : stamp out dissent and make the world, Cowlumbus and Ohio State safe for > : milktoast thought. Guess what kiddies? Angsto has accomplished his > : mission, namely to get nervous nellies like you to stop being another > : "brick in the wall" and actually DO SOMETHING, even if its just to toss > : off your little backbiting nonsense. Waaah, waaaah, waaaaaaaaaaah! > : Crybabies. You and yours have created the kind of society we live in > : today, one where it is immoral to have sex or look at it, and moral to > : bomb babies and claim to be proud of it. Sick fuckers. > : Angsto > : http://www.iwaynet.net/~angsto/angsto2.htm > : Angsto returns to TV on Sunday, 3/15 & 3/22 and Wed. 3/18 & 3/25 at > : 11:30 pm on Channel 21, the freak channel in central Ohio. Soon to air, > : the Angsto takes Manhattan episode where a Penns. politician blows his > : brains out to the 1812 overture! > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Whatever you do will be insignificant. But it is > very important that you do it. -Gandhi- > ---jwarner@freenet.columbus.oh.us http;//www.iwaynet.net/~jack1`------------
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113a29,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid113a29,public X-Google-Thread: 139330,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid139330,public X-Google-Thread: 1079c1,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid1079c1,public X-Google-Thread: 10293a,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid10293a,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: f95f9,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gidf95f9,public X-Google-Thread: 10ba59,a0f749fe7f36ca8b X-Google-Attributes: gid10ba59,public From: Angsto the Clown <angsto@iwaynet.net> Subject: Want real censorship? Try this! Date: 1998/03/10 Message-ID: <3504C998.19AC93E8@iwaynet.net> X-Deja-AN: 332534449 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <34F84950.E79B0F80@iwaynet.net> <6dd5cj$rgg@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Warner <jwarner@freenet.columbus.oh.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Angsto Enterprises & First Amendment Soupkitchen Newsgroups: osu.general,cmh.general,cmh.opinion,osu.opinion,alt.censorship,alt.tv.public-access,alt.columbus.armpit-of-america