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Re: Town hall dopes...

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From: Jack Warner
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 00:00
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Where was your indignation about free speech last week when Blumenthaul was
called before Star's grand jury for, allegedly, saying bad things about
Star and his prosecutors?

I just wish the protesters at osu would have had something more
intelligent to say.


Angsto the Clown (angsto@iwaynet.net) wrote:
: Well said.  I applaud your speaking out what I'm sure echoes the
: feelings of
: many silent followers in this newsgroup.

: Scott

: susan@pop.service.ohio-state.edu wrote in message ...
: >> Garrett,
: >>
: >>     Ever read up on the constitution or writings of Jefferson, Paine,

: >> Mason, Madison, Washington, Franklin and on and on?  Do so.  It will
: >> open your eyes to the purpose of founding a nation and writing a
: >> constitution.  Dissent, even LOUD dissent, is protected speech.  The
: >> most foul and disagreeable speech is the speech that deserves the
: most
: >> protection and guarantees.  Even the Supreme Court has said so many
: >> times.
: >
: >(Note: Text below was formatted for easier reading. No words were
: edited.)
: >
: >>U.S. SUPREME COURT:
: >>"Regulations which permit the Government to discriminate on the basis
: of
: >>the content of the message cannot be tolerated under the First
: Amendment."
: >>
: >>"[T]he fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient

: >>reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that

: >>gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it
: >>constitutional protection."
: >
: >>"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is

: >>that the Government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply
: >>because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable."
: >>
: >> Excerpts from the Opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court
: >>
: >>                                      <<<<profanity snipped>>>>
: >>                       Excerpt from 'Angsto, the man and the myth'
: >>
: >>  Any public figure can and must be held up to ridicule and abuse,
: >
: >So we can do the same to you by that interpretation.
: >Where did you ever learn that they "must be held up to ridicule and
: abuse"?
: >Certainly not from your Supreme Court quote. It only refers to the
: right to
: >speak an idea/opinion even though it is "offensive or disagreeable".
: >
: >The disagreeement wasn't the problem, the presentation was. Those
: yelling
: >over the speakers were not letting the government the right of speaking

: >THEIR opinion even though the yelling few found it "offensive or
: >disagreeable". It's a two way street.
: >
: >> especially those pinheads who attempt to sway public opinion
: >
: >Like those yelling their voices over all in the field house?
: >
: >> with shady deals and pictures of dead women and children!
: >
: >Saddam's the one who used the poison on his own people.
: >
: >
: >> As for old Saddam's propaganda machine, what planet do you live on?
: >
: >Third rock from the sun...need a vector to get back here?
: >
: >>Saddam doesn't need one nor does he have one.
: >
: >And your expertise and expert sources in the region tell you this?
: >Puhleeze! Tell me another fairy tale!
: >
: >> Puhleeze!  Our fearless leaders do quite well blowing it out their
: >> a**es all by themselves without the help of some imaginary middle
: >> eastern disinformation network.
: >
: >Which network would that be?
: >
: >> Who needs disinformation?
: >
: >You seem to thrive on it!
: >
: >> One only needs to subscribe to someone like Iwaynet's newsfeeds.
: >> They suck so bad I didn't get this note there butthrough Dejanews!
: >> Real information is lost through poor technology and negligence.
: >
: >Well if Iwaynet is not meeting your standards why don't you find an ISP

: >that will...if that's possible.
: >No one's chained you to Iwaynet (Have they?).
: >
: >>I have a grasp of the nature of the constitution and its bill of
: rights.
: >
: >Only as they seemingly apply to your desires. Get a grasp on the HUMAN
: >side of the bill of rights and you'll find that there must be a give
: and
: >take to survive and just because one can yell louder doesn't make
: him/her
: >right.
: >
: >> Read them and weep.
: >
: >I read your posts and weep for you and the venom that you speak.
: >
: >> Angsto

: I find this kind of thing amazing.  Meek individuals, admittedly
: "lurking yet not speaking" suddenly becoming so aroused by the written
: word of another they must respond.  They not only respond, they respond
: to each and every line and statement with a simplistic, childish aside
: that shows only a grade school concept of the constitution and real
: debate.  Screw you.  Snipping naughty words and telling others they
: should "love it or leave it" is pinheaded at its ignorant best.  These
: people are the perfect dupes of the politicians, blindly following any
: crap fed to them and buying into the fascist propaganda. Scott and Susan
: should get together and start a threatening letter writing campaign to
: stamp out dissent and make the world, Cowlumbus and Ohio State safe for
: milktoast thought.  Guess what kiddies?  Angsto has accomplished his
: mission, namely to get nervous nellies like you to stop being another
: "brick in the wall" and actually DO SOMETHING, even if its just to toss
: off your little backbiting nonsense. Waaah, waaaah, waaaaaaaaaaah!
: Crybabies.  You and yours have created the kind of society we live in
: today, one where it is immoral to have sex or look at it, and moral to
: bomb babies and claim to be proud of it.  Sick fuckers.
: Angsto
: http://www.iwaynet.net/~angsto/angsto2.htm
: Angsto returns to TV on Sunday, 3/15 & 3/22 and Wed. 3/18 & 3/25 at
: 11:30 pm on Channel 21, the freak channel in central Ohio.  Soon to air,
: the Angsto takes Manhattan episode where a Penns. politician blows his
: brains out to the 1812 overture!

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From: jwarner@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Jack Warner)
Subject: Re: Town hall dopes...
Date: 1998/03/01
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