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Re: Are IT certifications important?

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From: Smackey Two-Tongues
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 03:10
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Certifications are a bit of a double edged sword.  On one hand, they
show that you know something about a new technology.  Good luck
getting anything like that from a university program.  On the other
hand, they are problem for people who need to constantly recertify.
Some days I wish I was a plumber, not a lot you need to know after the
5th year.

While some people pass certifications with only a rudimentary
knowledge of the subject, at least it shows that they have a certain
work ethic and that they are willing to devote the time to
learning/training for something new.  I think that point might be
overlooked a lot.  I also think that MCSE's with NT should completely
recertify ... but that is another topic entirely (since I have to with
my MCSD - no breaks for me!).

As far as financing a site like that? No idea but it is a pretty good
site and they have some good practice tests.

-stt


On 6 Jun 2002 04:23:59 GMT, cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner)
wrote:

>Smackey Two-Tongues (Smackey Two-Tongues) writes:
>> http://www.certcities.com/
>
>Cool, I had no idea there were web sites dedicated to the topic
>of IT certifications. Who finances a site like that? They
>don't seem to have a lot of advertising.
>
>And on another note, I have always wondered what percentage
>of the revenues of companies such as Microsoft is derived
>from the certification programs. Whoever started this
>certification business was a genious. Not only do
>they charge an arm an a leg testing, books, what have you,
>but they also have an army of certified "professionals" who
>are pushing the company's products for them at no cost.
>
>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:50:17 -0400, "garp" <garp_234@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>Does anyone know where I can find more information about a Linux
>>>certification?
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>"Elat Lerner" <cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
>>>news:adjnem$cfk$1@freenet9.carleton.ca...
>>>> blackjacker (play2bonk@hotmail.com) writes:
>>>> > Certifications are about as usefull as toiler paper.  The same goes
>>>> > for microsoft certifications.  The most important thing is experience
>>>> > and a solid CS education.
>>>>
>>>> You and I may agree on this, but the rest of the world apparently not.
>>>>
>>>> In  a major study just completed and paid for by you and me (HRDC) the
>>>> following (surprising) conclusions have been reached:
>>>> * Certifications are most important to employers when hiring
>>>>    managerial and senior staff (page 76)
>>>> * IT employees look for certifications by Cisco, Linux, Oracle and Sun
>>>> *  Employers value certifications by Microsoft and Novell (page 77)
>>>>
>>>> For more information check out
>>>>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaHiTech/message/35
>>>>
>>>> > kaja@digitalschemes.com wrote in message
>>>news:<3CF3C028.DA6702C0@digitalschemes.com>...
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have been watching this newsgroup for a while and there has been some
>>>> >> talk as to how important it is to know Java in order to lend a job. I
>>>am
>>>> >> a Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform with 89% test score.
>>>> >> I am looking for people who want to gain the same qualification. I
>>>offer
>>>> >> Java tutoring and Sun Exam preparation at VERY reasonable rates - I am
>>>> >> charging $20 / hour. I just came back from Europe where I worked as a
>>>> >> Java
>>>> >> Developer and I am currently working on my Java Developer certification
>>>> >> so I have plenty of time. If you are interested in getting Java
>>>> >> certified
>>>> >> and want some extra pointers and help from someone who has done it, or
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> are just looking to start learning Java to improve your skill set, send
>>>> >> me
>>>> >> an email and we can talk more. I have all the materials needed to study
>>>> >> as
>>>> >> well as a notebook so that the study sessions can take place in your
>>>> >> favorite Java place. And here is more about what I can do for you:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The Java Exam consists of 11 parts:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         1) DECLARATIONS AND ACCESS CONTROL
>>>> >>         2) FLOW CONTROL AND EXCEPTION HANDLING
>>>> >>         3) GARBAGE COLLECTION
>>>> >>         4) LANGUAGE FUNDAMENTALS
>>>> >>         5) OPERATORS AND ASSIGNMENTS
>>>> >>         6) OVERLOADING,OVERRIDING,RUNTIME TYPE,AND OBJECT ORIENTATION
>>>> >>         7) THREADS
>>>> >>         8) THE JAVA.AWT PACKAGE
>>>> >>         9) THE JAVA.LANG PACKAGE
>>>> >>         10) THE JAVA.UTIL PACKAGE
>>>> >>         11) THE JAVA.IO PACKAGE
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Each of these parts we can cover in 1-4 hours (plus the time you
>>>> >> prectice)
>>>> >> depending on how much time you are willing to put in your self and on
>>>> >> how
>>>> >> much you already know.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Before I send you off to the exam we will spend 2 FREE hours of
>>>> >> review
>>>> >> and practice tests to make sure you are good and ready because it is
>>>> >> important to me that you get what you paid for and pass the exam!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sincerely,
>>>> >> Karel
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regularly updated
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/NotNortel
>>>
>> 
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From: Smackey Two-Tongues <Smackey Two-Tongues>
Newsgroups: ott.education.misc,ott.jobs,tor.jobs,ab.jobs,van.jobs
Subject: Re: Are IT certifications important?
Date: 6 Jun 2002 22:10:20 -0500
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