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Article #16Re: Are IT certifications important?
From: Smackey Two-Tongues
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 03:10
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 03:10
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Certifications are a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand, they show that you know something about a new technology. Good luck getting anything like that from a university program. On the other hand, they are problem for people who need to constantly recertify. Some days I wish I was a plumber, not a lot you need to know after the 5th year. While some people pass certifications with only a rudimentary knowledge of the subject, at least it shows that they have a certain work ethic and that they are willing to devote the time to learning/training for something new. I think that point might be overlooked a lot. I also think that MCSE's with NT should completely recertify ... but that is another topic entirely (since I have to with my MCSD - no breaks for me!). As far as financing a site like that? No idea but it is a pretty good site and they have some good practice tests. -stt On 6 Jun 2002 04:23:59 GMT, cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner) wrote: >Smackey Two-Tongues (Smackey Two-Tongues) writes: >> http://www.certcities.com/ > >Cool, I had no idea there were web sites dedicated to the topic >of IT certifications. Who finances a site like that? They >don't seem to have a lot of advertising. > >And on another note, I have always wondered what percentage >of the revenues of companies such as Microsoft is derived >from the certification programs. Whoever started this >certification business was a genious. Not only do >they charge an arm an a leg testing, books, what have you, >but they also have an army of certified "professionals" who >are pushing the company's products for them at no cost. > >> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:50:17 -0400, "garp" <garp_234@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>Does anyone know where I can find more information about a Linux >>>certification? >>>Thanks >>> >>> >>>"Elat Lerner" <cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message >>>news:adjnem$cfk$1@freenet9.carleton.ca... >>>> blackjacker (play2bonk@hotmail.com) writes: >>>> > Certifications are about as usefull as toiler paper. The same goes >>>> > for microsoft certifications. The most important thing is experience >>>> > and a solid CS education. >>>> >>>> You and I may agree on this, but the rest of the world apparently not. >>>> >>>> In a major study just completed and paid for by you and me (HRDC) the >>>> following (surprising) conclusions have been reached: >>>> * Certifications are most important to employers when hiring >>>> managerial and senior staff (page 76) >>>> * IT employees look for certifications by Cisco, Linux, Oracle and Sun >>>> * Employers value certifications by Microsoft and Novell (page 77) >>>> >>>> For more information check out >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaHiTech/message/35 >>>> >>>> > kaja@digitalschemes.com wrote in message >>>news:<3CF3C028.DA6702C0@digitalschemes.com>... >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I have been watching this newsgroup for a while and there has been some >>>> >> talk as to how important it is to know Java in order to lend a job. 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