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I was going to refer you to the HRDC site at
http://www.labourmarketinformation.ca/standard.asp?ppid=57&lcode=E
for information on employment prospects in the Electronics/Computer
engineering, but the site (that has only been up for a couple of
months) appears to already have been taken down, just as its
predecessor which provided information on the number of unemployment
claims in various fields.

Here is some information I gathered before the site experienced
"technical difficulties" - I am not sure how reliable this information
is:

"> >Employment Prospects for Computer Engineers in
> >
> >Winnipeg "Good"
> >Toronto  "Limited"
> >Montreal "Good"
> >Ottawa "Surplus"
> >Edmonton "No Result"
> >Alberta "<Unknown>"
> >British Columbia "No Result"
> >Nova Scotia "No Result"
> >
> >Employment prostpect for Software Engineers in
> >Winnipeg "Good"
> >Toronto  "Good"
> >Montreal "No Result"
> >Ottawa "Surplus"
> >Edmonton "<Unknown>"
> >Alberta "<Unknown>"
> >British Columbia "No Result"
> >Nova Scotia "No Result"

James Sarasin <jsarasin@telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:<vInDb.14010$OJ.2086@edtnps84>...
> Jee, I feel great, I'm about to go to DeVry in Calgary and take a 
> Electronics/Computer engineering program. :(
> 
> 
> Elat Lerner wrote:
> 
> > SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes:
> > 
> >>cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner) wrote in message news:<bnm2dq$e1f$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
> >>
> >>>SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes:
> >>>
> >>>>Computer / electronics engineering jobs seem hard to find everywhere
> >>>>these days... except for India that is. I have no problem believing
> >>>>that there are no computer engineering jobs in Edmonton - at least not
> >>>>in the public domain. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I need a
> >>>>computer engineering job, and have been looking without success for a
> >>>
> >>>I don't want to be nosy so feel free to ignore my question:
> >>>
> >>>Have you worked in this field before, or are you a new grad?
> >>
> >>New grad, but I graduated with co-op designation (meaning 16 months
> >>work experience, the last 8 doing actual engineering work just before
> >>the market went to complete garbage in 2002).
> > 
> > 
> > So you feel the market changed for the worst in 2002?
> > 
> > 
> >>>If you are a new grad: When did you graduate and from what 
> >>>program? Did your classmates get jobs?
> >>
> >>Graduated May 2003. As for classmates, I'm sure some got jobs, since a
> >>good number of people in my class had family working as an engineer
> >>somewhere to get them a job, and there are those guys with 95%
> >>averages who study all day but have no creativity - they always get
> >>jobs. 
> > 
> > 
> > Oh no they don't :-}
> > 
> > I remember vaguely a letter to the editor of the Ottawa Citizen many 
> > years ago, when the market was supposedly booming, written by an
> > engineer who graduated at the top of his class. He said in the letter
> > that he could not get a job.
> > 
> > 
> >>A lot of the ones like me, out there making our own way without
> >>someone to hand us a job are still unemployed, or at least heavily
> >>underemployed (working in tech support or doing web design, things
> >>like that). To be honest, I don't know of a single person from my
> >>class who got an engineering job, but I have only stayed in direct
> >>contact with a few.
> >>
> >>I know a lot went back to school. I know a guy who went into education
> >>of all things after graduating. A prof told me that applications for
> >>grad school are at an all time high. As for official statistics, good
> >>luck finding them. Universities will brag about job statistics in good
> >>times, but right now I doubt they even keep track (no one has ever
> >>contacted me asking if I found work). If they it make public that only
> >>40% of graduates find work in their field, who would join the program?
> > 
> > 
> > One of the positive legacies left behind by the Tories in Ontario is the 
> > so called Key Performance Indicators system. It is a standardized survey
> > of all graduates of all post-secondary institutions: universities,
> > colleges and private schools, that measure such things as % of graduates
> > working in their field of study, student loan default rates, etc.
> > 
> > 
> >>I was told by a recruiter that he sees "hundreds" of engineering
> >>resumes. I believe him. It's strange though... those unemployed
> >>engineers are a quiet bunch. I know they are out there but they don't
> >>make a lot of noise about it.
> >>
> >>+SoL+
> > 
> > 
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