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Re: Prospects for employment for Computer Engineers in Edmondton/Calgary "unknown"

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From: motor
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:43
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I hope you're going to DeVry because it is your passion not because someone
told you deceivingly that there will be lots of jobs out there.  You will
probably need a second occupation to fall back on so that you can pay your
student loan.

Good luck...

"James Sarasin" <jsarasin@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> Jee, I feel great, I'm about to go to DeVry in Calgary and take a
> Electronics/Computer engineering program. :(
>
>
> Elat Lerner wrote:
>
> > SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes:
> >
> >>cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner) wrote in message
news:<bnm2dq$e1f$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
> >>
> >>>SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes:
> >>>
> >>>>Computer / electronics engineering jobs seem hard to find everywhere
> >>>>these days... except for India that is. I have no problem believing
> >>>>that there are no computer engineering jobs in Edmonton - at least not
> >>>>in the public domain. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I need a
> >>>>computer engineering job, and have been looking without success for a
> >>>
> >>>I don't want to be nosy so feel free to ignore my question:
> >>>
> >>>Have you worked in this field before, or are you a new grad?
> >>
> >>New grad, but I graduated with co-op designation (meaning 16 months
> >>work experience, the last 8 doing actual engineering work just before
> >>the market went to complete garbage in 2002).
> >
> >
> > So you feel the market changed for the worst in 2002?
> >
> >
> >>>If you are a new grad: When did you graduate and from what
> >>>program? Did your classmates get jobs?
> >>
> >>Graduated May 2003. As for classmates, I'm sure some got jobs, since a
> >>good number of people in my class had family working as an engineer
> >>somewhere to get them a job, and there are those guys with 95%
> >>averages who study all day but have no creativity - they always get
> >>jobs.
> >
> >
> > Oh no they don't :-}
> >
> > I remember vaguely a letter to the editor of the Ottawa Citizen many
> > years ago, when the market was supposedly booming, written by an
> > engineer who graduated at the top of his class. He said in the letter
> > that he could not get a job.
> >
> >
> >>A lot of the ones like me, out there making our own way without
> >>someone to hand us a job are still unemployed, or at least heavily
> >>underemployed (working in tech support or doing web design, things
> >>like that). To be honest, I don't know of a single person from my
> >>class who got an engineering job, but I have only stayed in direct
> >>contact with a few.
> >>
> >>I know a lot went back to school. I know a guy who went into education
> >>of all things after graduating. A prof told me that applications for
> >>grad school are at an all time high. As for official statistics, good
> >>luck finding them. Universities will brag about job statistics in good
> >>times, but right now I doubt they even keep track (no one has ever
> >>contacted me asking if I found work). If they it make public that only
> >>40% of graduates find work in their field, who would join the program?
> >
> >
> > One of the positive legacies left behind by the Tories in Ontario is the
> > so called Key Performance Indicators system. It is a standardized survey
> > of all graduates of all post-secondary institutions: universities,
> > colleges and private schools, that measure such things as % of graduates
> > working in their field of study, student loan default rates, etc.
> >
> >
> >>I was told by a recruiter that he sees "hundreds" of engineering
> >>resumes. I believe him. It's strange though... those unemployed
> >>engineers are a quiet bunch. I know they are out there but they don't
> >>make a lot of noise about it.
> >>
> >>+SoL+
> >
> >
> > --
> > Labour market discussion for High Tech workers
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaHiTech
>
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