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Article #3Re: Prospects for employment for Computer Engineers in Edmondton/Calgary "unknown"
From: motor
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:43
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:43
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I hope you're going to DeVry because it is your passion not because someone told you deceivingly that there will be lots of jobs out there. You will probably need a second occupation to fall back on so that you can pay your student loan. Good luck... "James Sarasin" <jsarasin@telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:vInDb.14010$OJ.2086@edtnps84... > Jee, I feel great, I'm about to go to DeVry in Calgary and take a > Electronics/Computer engineering program. :( > > > Elat Lerner wrote: > > > SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes: > > > >>cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner) wrote in message news:<bnm2dq$e1f$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>... > >> > >>>SoL (soundoflight@hotmail.com) writes: > >>> > >>>>Computer / electronics engineering jobs seem hard to find everywhere > >>>>these days... except for India that is. I have no problem believing > >>>>that there are no computer engineering jobs in Edmonton - at least not > >>>>in the public domain. Feel free to prove me wrong, because I need a > >>>>computer engineering job, and have been looking without success for a > >>> > >>>I don't want to be nosy so feel free to ignore my question: > >>> > >>>Have you worked in this field before, or are you a new grad? > >> > >>New grad, but I graduated with co-op designation (meaning 16 months > >>work experience, the last 8 doing actual engineering work just before > >>the market went to complete garbage in 2002). > > > > > > So you feel the market changed for the worst in 2002? > > > > > >>>If you are a new grad: When did you graduate and from what > >>>program? Did your classmates get jobs? > >> > >>Graduated May 2003. As for classmates, I'm sure some got jobs, since a > >>good number of people in my class had family working as an engineer > >>somewhere to get them a job, and there are those guys with 95% > >>averages who study all day but have no creativity - they always get > >>jobs. > > > > > > Oh no they don't :-} > > > > I remember vaguely a letter to the editor of the Ottawa Citizen many > > years ago, when the market was supposedly booming, written by an > > engineer who graduated at the top of his class. He said in the letter > > that he could not get a job. > > > > > >>A lot of the ones like me, out there making our own way without > >>someone to hand us a job are still unemployed, or at least heavily > >>underemployed (working in tech support or doing web design, things > >>like that). To be honest, I don't know of a single person from my > >>class who got an engineering job, but I have only stayed in direct > >>contact with a few. > >> > >>I know a lot went back to school. I know a guy who went into education > >>of all things after graduating. A prof told me that applications for > >>grad school are at an all time high. As for official statistics, good > >>luck finding them. Universities will brag about job statistics in good > >>times, but right now I doubt they even keep track (no one has ever > >>contacted me asking if I found work). If they it make public that only > >>40% of graduates find work in their field, who would join the program? > > > > > > One of the positive legacies left behind by the Tories in Ontario is the > > so called Key Performance Indicators system. It is a standardized survey > > of all graduates of all post-secondary institutions: universities, > > colleges and private schools, that measure such things as % of graduates > > working in their field of study, student loan default rates, etc. > > > > > >>I was told by a recruiter that he sees "hundreds" of engineering > >>resumes. I believe him. It's strange though... those unemployed > >>engineers are a quiet bunch. I know they are out there but they don't > >>make a lot of noise about it. > >> > >>+SoL+ > > > > > > -- > > Labour market discussion for High Tech workers > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OttawaHiTech >
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