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Copyright issues (was: Custom CD's with 150 songs - $30)

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From: Aryko
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:00
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Let's see.  If you're not worried about anything, then why the hotmail
address?

The fact is, any type of mix tape or CD is technically illegal.
However, Sony, et al. won't go around prosecuting every Tom, Dick and
Harriet for it because they don't have the resources to do it, and they
won't get any money out of it.

The difference between your service and home dubbing is you're charging
money for it.  If you make gobs of money out of this, chances are that
someone's going to take notice, and they'll decide you're worth picking
on, if only to set an example, in which case you'll face criminal and
civil liability.  Or worse, major record labels will start recognizing
home CD-recorders like yourself as a illegitimate competitor, and do the
simple thing and raise prices.

Pure Rock wrote:

>>But we're not making money off it.

>I never said anybody was, and the only money I'm 'making' is to cover
the cost of the CD and my time. It >takes a while to put together a
collection like mine.

The chances are, you collected these MP3s, regardless of whether you'd
make a CD for anyone but yourself.  The CD costs around $2.50 - $3.00.
The time to burn 150 MP3s might be 30-45 minutes (on a 2x burner), but
not more than an hour.  Clearly, charging $30 per CD classifies your
scheme as a profit-making venture.

>And as far as I'm concerned, anybody who doesnt like the idea doesnt
have to buy one, and they can >ignore the messages. I don't understand
what it is with you people, you have to put your 2 cents in >everytime
you get a chance.

Ignoring the message: doesn't work that way.  You're passing yourself
off as legitimate, and that's not true.  As far as the change I'm
spending on the net, you spent as much by posting your offer, so I'm
entitled.

Cross-posting to can.legal, if there's really more to be said on this
one.

Andrew

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<FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica">Let's see.&nbsp; If you're not worried about
anything, then why the hotmail address?</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"></FONT>

<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica">The fact is, any type of mix tape or CD
is technically illegal.&nbsp; However, Sony, et al. won't go around prosecuting
every Tom, Dick and Harriet for it because they don't have the resources
to do it, and they won't get any money out of it.</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"></FONT>

<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica">The difference between your service and
home dubbing is you're charging money for it.&nbsp; If you make gobs of
money out of this, chances are that someone's going to take notice, and
they'll decide you're worth picking on, if only to set an example, in which
case you'll face criminal and civil liability.&nbsp; Or worse, major record
labels will start recognizing home CD-recorders like yourself as a illegitimate
competitor, and do the simple thing and raise prices.</FONT>

<P>Pure Rock wrote:

<P>>>But we're not making money off it.

<P><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>>I never said anybody was, and the
only money I'm 'making' is to cover the cost of the CD and my time. It
>takes a while to put together a collection like mine.</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT></FONT>

<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000000">The chances are,
you collected these MP3s, regardless of whether you'd make a CD for anyone
but yourself.&nbsp; The CD costs around $2.50 - $3.00.&nbsp; The time to
burn 150 MP3s might be 30-45 minutes (on a 2x burner), but not more than
an hour.&nbsp; Clearly, charging $30 per CD classifies your scheme as a
profit-making venture.</FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=-1>>And as far as I'm concerned, anybody who doesnt like
the idea doesnt have to buy one, and they can >ignore the messages. I don't
understand what it is with you people, you have to put your 2 cents in
>everytime you get a chance.</FONT><FONT SIZE=-1></FONT>

<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica">Ignoring the message: doesn't work that
way.&nbsp; You're passing yourself off as legitimate, and that's not true.&nbsp;
As far as the change I'm spending on the net, you spent as much by posting
your offer, so I'm entitled.</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"></FONT>

<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica">Cross-posting to can.legal, if there's
really more to be said on this one.</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"></FONT>

<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica">Andrew</FONT>
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Subject: Copyright issues (was: Custom CD's with 150 songs - $30)
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