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Article #492Re: CIRA to dump Magma
From: Ralph
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:48
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:48
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This is the first time I've heard you open your mouth and it looks like you know even less than I do. Either that or you work for Magma and don't want to see things objectively. Magma doesn't peer at TorIX, which CIRA will likely do after it gets its own AS and PI space. If something happens to the major infrastructure at 151 Front, it's going to get resolved a lot quicker than in the outskirts of Ottawa. As for the packet loss on my Ottawa-Toronto link, how's this? 500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 24.5/37.1/214.3 ms Not that it matters anyway - I'll be the first to admit that IStop is not competing in the high-end colocation market. Magma might like to think they can compete but they're nothing compared to Equinix or Telehouse. -Ralph Jordan Davies wrote in message <3DC548B3.C7227FCA@nowhere.com>... >Everytime Ralph opens his mouth he shows how little he knows. > >1. Round-trip packet times for traffic from Ottawa to Toronto are app. 10ms. >It would >make no difference whether CIRA's server(s) were located in either city. Of >course, >Istop.com's customers would see a difference as Ralph is too cheap to buy >guaranteed >bandwidth between Ottawa and Toronto, resulting in packet loss for his >customers. > >2. Moving CIRA's server(s) from Ottawa to Toronto would make no difference if >those >servers truly are a single point of failure. "Gee - if this server crashes, >the >Internet in Canada is screwed. Let's move it from one city to another - that >will >fix things!!" Anybody with half a brain would realize that the proper solution >is more >servers, spread across the entire country with no single point of failure. >This is >how they do things in the US and it seems to work just fine. > >3. Magma's website says they're building a new data center in Toronto - at 151 >Front >Street. Perhaps CIRA will be taking advantage of this to improve their >redundancy. > >4. The people that I have talked to (including a couple of folks at CIRA) have >had >nothing but good things to say about Magma, and from what I've heard, their >Ottawa >Data Center is top notch, rivaling any other facility in Canada. > >5. Isn't it weird that to get to Ralph's "center of the Internet in Canada" via >IStop, >you have to get there by way of New York? > >Jordan > > >Ralph wrote: > >> I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national infrastructure >> such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility than >> Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa. >> >> CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in Toronto, >> which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada. >> >> -Ralph >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10c8f2,164c8d446b99d4a5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c8f2,public X-Google-Thread: 105a5a,164c8d446b99d4a5 X-Google-Attributes: gid105a5a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-11-03 14:06:01 PST From: "Ralph" <nobody@uu.net> Newsgroups: ott.online,can.internet.highspeed References: <8YFw9.10099$h_4.1553814@news20.bellglobal.com> <3DC548B3.C7227FCA@nowhere.com> Subject: Re: CIRA to dump Magma Lines: 86 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: <kUgx9.725$Yf1.113214@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:48:57 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.47.27.174 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1036360336 206.47.27.174 (Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:52:16 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:52:16 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!torn!webster!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail