🚀 go-pugleaf

> >> You dont actually appear to have a 'name'
>
> >> A reputation on the other hand...
>
> > As the expression goes, "I wish to clear my name" (read: reputation)....
>
> It was a joke joyce. 'Josh B' ?  Geddit ?  Obviously not.

Oh, hahahaha. Mind if I don't laugh too much? It isn't very funny.

> > The way you said that was in a smart-arse way that was demeaning.
>
> Still doesnt qualify as a flame war Josh.
>
> I didnt realise you were such a delicate little flower Josh.
> Did you burst into tears ?  I'm very sorry, truly really I am.

Can you kiss me better?

> > If you were to say "Is there evidence that this really is true?" and
> > I then said what I did, then yes, I would have started the flame war.
> > However, the smart-arse and the abusing tone taken technically
> > means you started the flame war by provoking me.
>
> How odd that Chris doesnt even mention flame wars in the bit you deleted.

Ok, let me rephrase the reply to you when you replied to Chris.

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> > As for Josh, if you actually look at the Josh/Rod interactions
> > you'll find they are almost ALL initiated by Rod. Josh makes
> > a comment and Rod jumps down his throat.
>
> I cant make up my mind if you really do believe this sort of
> thing or if you know damned well its a lie and claim it anyway.

Sorry rod, but it's true.

I have only started about 3 hostile interactions.------------------

> > As I said, I invite people to do so.
>
> Then there's the tiny matter of what they are guaranteed to find when they do
> too.

Yes, it is a tiny matter - a tiny matter because it doesn't exist.

> >>> I have only talked to you in one usenet group.
>
> >> That claim is easy to check too. Its wrong.
>
> > That is one claim you can NEVER substantiate.
>
> Trivial to substantiate actually. Ever heard of DejaNews Josh ?

Sure have. I have NEVER used more usenet groups than I have said below. You are
extremley mistaken.

> > I have only ever posted messages in 9 newsgroups,
> > 4 of those have been the ozemail.* groups, and one is
> > the aus.students for which the reference is sighted.
>
> Still wrong. Still trivial to check.

IT IS NOT WRONG. IT IS TOTALLY TRUE.

If you believe this, then please check.

> > Yes it was.
>
> You claiming black is white too Josh ?

Aparently some fashion mags believe this ;-)

> > I have only said this line twice in any newsgroups,

No it's not. Look, this is stupid. I don't believe you are arguing a completley
wrong point. However, I am not giving up on this point.

> Still wrong.

No it isn't.

> Just like you were wrong when
> you previously said you only said it once.

I only posted to the NG twice. I don't try and remember that time in my life.

> > and unless you know me personally off the web,
> > you will never have heard it from me elsewhere.
>
> Never said a word about 'elsewhere'.

I know - this is qualifying the point further.

> > I invite you, or anyone else, to look through my
> > posts in ozemail.* groups, or any usenet groups.
>
> Dont expect anyone is actually hanging out for your invite Josh.

Are you, because you still seem to be claiming I have said that phrase more than
once.

You guys heard of email?  Sort out your problems somewhere else.  Jeez, no
wonder you need 24hr access.  Why doesn't everybody just ignore this Rod
person?

Chris

On 19 Oct 1998, Chris wrote:

> You guys heard of email?  Sort out your problems somewhere else.  Jeez, no
> wonder you need 24hr access.  Why doesn't everybody just ignore this Rod
> person?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
Hi Chris,
         Pretty simple actually, its late, to hot to sleep,23.49 and in 
Brisb /inner west suburbs its 27.4 degrees, nothing on tv..... bored 
shitless i guess :)

eheeh
cya

And u say that u don't instigate the problems.
Why don't we just create a group for the three of U (i.e Rod, Chris and to a
lesser extent Josh B). All I ever see u people post are the exact opposite
of what Rod post whether he may be right or not (I'm not saying that Rod is
always correct) but from what I can see u have taken it upon yourself to
disagree with him just for the fact that you see a post from him. I have to
say that Rod need to calm down a bit but but he isn't the only one who is
causing the flaming war, u are contibuting to it as much as he is, if not
more.
Take a leaf out of Steve's book if u don't like what he posts ignore him
unless he does a personal attack which I haven't seen him do untill u
instigated it first.

Chris Lewis wrote in message <362AD5F0.282EB69F@bigpond.com>...
>Guys,
>
>Having had a close look at the messages in "ozemail.users",
>"aus.general" and "aus.politics", it would seem there is a
>real reason for proposing the creation of a new group.
>
>There are far too many posts in both groups for them not to
>deserve a place of their own - where people can discuss the
>major issue that concerns them without clogging up the main
>groups.
>
>The proposed name of the group would be:
>
>aus.flame.roddles
>
>In this group all of us who have been abused, insulted, and
>generally irritated by Rod Speed can flame away at him to
>our hearts content. If any of those potential participants
>feel it would be pointless 'flaming' someone in a specific
>group because of the absence of the person being flamed I
>can set your minds at rest.
>
>Rod Speed is INCAPABLE of allowing someone to have the last
>word in an argument regardless of how abysmally wrong he is,
>or how many facts are put up to demolish his arguments - so
>he will almost certainly follow us there, thus allowing more
>'normal' users to continue on with their web lives without
>his helpful little comments.
>
>As this is a first step, I'd appreciate some feedback before
>we 'take it further'.
>
>--
>
>Chris (Keeping the dream alive)
>NSW
>
>----------------------------------
>The difference between a duck is that one of its legs are
>both the same.
>----------------------------------
>
>

KrilliC,


> And u say that u don't instigate the problems.

Just opeining a door to get us all out of the group! There's not point in
clogging up the works with "mindless botting" as our troubled friend would put
it.


> Why don't we just create a group for the three of U (i.e Rod, Chris and to a
> lesser extent Josh B). All I ever see u people post are the exact opposite of
> what Rod post whether he may be right or not (I'm not saying that Rod is
> always correct) but from what I can see u have taken it upon yourself to
> disagree with him just for the fact that you see a post from him. I have to
> say that Rod need to calm down a bit but but he isn't the only one who is
> causing the flaming war, u are contibuting to it as much as he is, if not
> more.

Actually Rod and I have agreed on several points in the past. But on others not.
It's the 'nots' that are the problem, and the way his arguments (for want of a
more accurate term) are put that irritates the hell out of me and many, many,
many people. This iritation with Rod has led to the establishment of .web pages
dedicated to him and his unique style of debate. He's even won the "Net.Kook of
the Year" award - these aren't my sites - they're run by people who have been
driven SO mad by him they felt this was the only way to get their own back!

As for Josh, if you actually look at the Josh/Rod interactions you'll find they
are almost ALL initiated by Rod. Josh makes a comment and Rod jumps down his
throat.


> Take a leaf out of Steve's book if u don't like what he posts ignore him
> unless he does a personal attack which I haven't seen him do untill u
> instigated it first.

There is a very old saying which I've always kept in mind - partly becasue of my
origins. It runs:

"The British are a tolerant race but vicious when provoked".

I've had a LOT of provocation, turned the other cheek MANY times and got that
slapped as well. This is just a means of getting us all out of the groups. No
'flame' intended - as such. I know you mean well, but until he's had REAL go at
you you won't understand fully why otherwise reasonable people find it necessary
to behave like we do.  By the way - Rod CAN'T 'calm down'. When I said he's
physocally incapable of leting someone else get the last word I meant it. Have
you followed any of his threads? If you do you'll see what I mean.

Trust me - would I lie to you???   :))

--

Chris (Keeping the dream alive)
NSW

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The difference between a duck is that one of its legs are both the same.
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well all I can say is just post your post whether they are replies to Rod or
not but just make your posts sound sensible and if Rod or whoever doesn't
like it and starts a personal attack on u then personally I wouldn't hold
back. It has happened to me and guess who won the battle. You should take
the attitude that if someone F***s with u then don't take a step back,
although I haven't seen recently Rods' posts for anyone take such action so
at present I would just ignore it until he or someone does.

Chris Lewis wrote in message <362ADD52.724DADD8@bigpond.com>...
>KrilliC,
>
>
>> And u say that u don't instigate the problems.
>
>Just opeining a door to get us all out of the group! There's not point in
>clogging up the works with "mindless botting" as our troubled friend would
put
>it.
>
>
>> Why don't we just create a group for the three of U (i.e Rod, Chris and
to a
>> lesser extent Josh B). All I ever see u people post are the exact
opposite of
>> what Rod post whether he may be right or not (I'm not saying that Rod is
>> always correct) but from what I can see u have taken it upon yourself to
>> disagree with him just for the fact that you see a post from him. I have
to
>> say that Rod need to calm down a bit but but he isn't the only one who is
>> causing the flaming war, u are contibuting to it as much as he is, if not
>> more.
>
>Actually Rod and I have agreed on several points in the past. But on others
not.
>It's the 'nots' that are the problem, and the way his arguments (for want
of a
>more accurate term) are put that irritates the hell out of me and many,
many,
>many people. This iritation with Rod has led to the establishment of .web
pages
>dedicated to him and his unique style of debate. He's even won the
"Net.Kook of
>the Year" award - these aren't my sites - they're run by people who have
been
>driven SO mad by him they felt this was the only way to get their own back!
>
>As for Josh, if you actually look at the Josh/Rod interactions you'll find
they
>are almost ALL initiated by Rod. Josh makes a comment and Rod jumps down
his
>throat.
>
>
>> Take a leaf out of Steve's book if u don't like what he posts ignore him
>> unless he does a personal attack which I haven't seen him do untill u
>> instigated it first.
>
>There is a very old saying which I've always kept in mind - partly becasue
of my
>origins. It runs:
>
>"The British are a tolerant race but vicious when provoked".
>
>I've had a LOT of provocation, turned the other cheek MANY times and got
that
>slapped as well. This is just a means of getting us all out of the groups.
No
>'flame' intended - as such. I know you mean well, but until he's had REAL
go at
>you you won't understand fully why otherwise reasonable people find it
necessary
>to behave like we do.  By the way - Rod CAN'T 'calm down'. When I said he's
>physocally incapable of leting someone else get the last word I meant it.
Have
>you followed any of his threads? If you do you'll see what I mean.
>
>Trust me - would I lie to you???   :))
>
>--
>
>Chris (Keeping the dream alive)
>NSW
>
>----------------------------------
>The difference between a duck is that one of its legs are both the same.
>----------------------------------
>
>

Chris Lewis wrote in message <362ADD52.724DADD8@bigpond.com>...

> As for Josh, if you actually look at the Josh/Rod interactions
> you'll find they are almost ALL initiated by Rod. Josh makes
> a comment and Rod jumps down his throat.

I cant make up my mind if you really do believe this sort of
thing or if you know damned well its a lie and claim it anyway.

You're clearly too stupid to be able to grasp that anyone can scan
the newsgroup and check for themselves if its true or not. And
clearly even stupider if you cant grasp how you look when they do.

Ditto with your mindlessly silly claim that I respond to every single
post of Josh's with a particular response I do use on ocassion.

Still, you're always welcome to blow your own feet right off so spectacularly.

> There is a very old saying which I've always kept
> in mind - partly becasue of my origins. It runs:

> "The British are a tolerant race but vicious when provoked".

You aint british, you're welsh, and it was the welsh that managed the
most pathetic response to the Normans and got stamped into the ground.
Even the Irish managed to be a hell of a lot more vicious than you lot.

Rest of what can only be your deliberate dishonesty flushed.