Re: Tree hugging terrorists get justice

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From: gatt
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:34

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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message 
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>>It's a well-known fact of life among REAL loggers, honey.
>
> And a non sequitur to protest spiking!

In one sense.  In another, when the media or the logging industry propaganda 
passes it off like it was a deliberate spiking, it clouds up the truth of 
the issue.

One thing you see if you observe the local industry is that there is a LOT 
of almost mafiaesque corporate crime, particularly with the local operations 
(not so much with companies like Weyerhauser, at least that I've ever 
identified.)

But on the flipside, there are honest, above-board and conscienscious 
companies like Vanport Logging that are real example-setters and deserving 
of environmentalist support.  Which, by the way, they've gotten.  The only 
problem is, if you're a smalltime logging operator and you work too well 
with the treehuggers, you're likely to get blackballed by the rest of the 
industry in terms of things like timber auctions, which are generally 
invitation-only and likely as not fixed.

(For example, the USFS might decide to auction off a parcel of public land. 
The auction takes place at the Federal Building in Eugene, and only a select 
group of operations are invited to participate.  The public is prohibited 
from bidding, monitoring or even attending the auction and if you try, there 
is a group of ex-FBI types working as consultants that will harrass you, 
videotape you, threaten you, and, were you out in the woods and not in front 
of law enforcement, thump you.  Something going on in the auction?   We 
aren't allowed to know.)

-c

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