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Re: Tree hugging terrorists get justice

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From: gatt
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:04
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message 
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>>No one was ever hurt by cutting a spiked tree,
>
> You're a monumental dolt curt!
>
> http://www.heritage.org/Research/EnergyandEnvironment/bg764.cfm

Also states:

"To prevent this, policy makers and particularly estab lishment 
environmental groups, must respond to the ecoterrorists by rebuilding the 
moral consensus against the use of violence. The environmental movement has 
a special responsibility. It must no longer tolerate, let alone encourage, 
the ecoteurs. In particular, environmental groups should publicize the fact 
that the ecoteurs violence sabotages legitimate environmental groups. "

The challenge has been met.  Revisit my comments in this thread about 
environmentalists turning their back on "ecoteurs"

The problem with anarchic entities such as Earth First! and the ALF and ELF 
is, they have no membership, no roster, no officers, no official leaders and 
so they have no rules or anybody to enforce the rules.  Anybody hotheaded 
dumbass can get fired up about something, burn up a BLM truck or a 
development, spray EARTH FIRST! on it and tell their bodies they're saving 
the world or some shit.  Naturally, folks look at the graffiti and assume it 
was perpetrated and organized by a collective of people or assume that, say, 
"Earth First! did it."     If the Animal Liberation Front is getting all the 
media attention, "they" will get all the loonies, and occasionally they'll 
even get counterintel types who will deliberately make problems to HURT the 
cause.

Those nonorganizations were a neat counterculture experiment but their lack 
of organization is their own weakness because they're totally vulnerable to 
misuse.  It's further complicated by things like "the Earth First! movement 
officially neither advocates nor condemns monkeywrenching" because there's 
no 'official' to be 'officially' and, as such, it's impossible for anybody 
to "officially" advocate or condemn anything. But the authors of the EF 
Journal (which is not 'officially' authoritative for Earth First! movement 
except that they bothered to make a website) don't really explain that to 
the casual reader.

-c
 
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