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Article #1853Re: Measure 48 could give Oregon the nation's fastest economic growth
From: Don Homuth
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:25
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:25
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On 23 Aug 2006 14:14:23 -0700, "Spread EagleοΏ½" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote: >Don Homuth wrote: > >> >Or, to ask the same question in yet another way, are you, a supposed >> >multicultural progressive, actually in fact a racist elitist who >> >believes that Americans are just somehow naturally superior to people >> >in the third world simply by virtue of being an American, and for no >> >other reason than that they are therefore automatically entitled to be >> >paid 10 times what those other people of other races are paid in the >> >third world for doing the same work? >> >> What a Fascinating philosophical question, which attempts not to deal >> with the initial one as asked. > >Oh come on. It's exactly the question and exactly the issue. You just >don't like what it says about your worldview, so you pretend otherwise. No -- your question gets involved with several other non-germane matters. Do you believe that Murken Workers ought to be satisfied with a third world wage scale >> Skilled workers' jobs are now being outsourced elsewhere as well, with >> the Only difference being the wage scale. > >Yes, it is increasingly a global economy. I already said that. And >that ship has already sailed. Does that mean your answer to the question is Yes? >> You may not be subject to that, you old Economic Elitist you, but you >> soon could be. > >Maybe. But the key is to be flexible, embrace change as a good thing, >and constantly adapt to stay ahead of the curve. And it helps if you start off well off. >> This isn't about factory workers any more. It's about technical >> workers and programmers and accountants and all manner of other >> erstwhile Highly Skilled Jobs now flowing elsewhere Only because of >> wage scales. > >You're the one who brought up their competitive advantage over us is, >their endless supply of cheap labor. And by exploiting that, and >exploiting the fact that we vastly overpay our labor doing the same >work, yes, the rest of world is catching up with us. And it is >increasingly a global economy. We cannot prop our wages up much >longer. That will be our undoing. As I said, the freedoms and >opportunities here are our advantages. We need to bring them to bear. So once again, the simple answer to your question is Yes? >> All that huffing and puffing still doesn't close with the questions. >> >> Should Murken Workers live on third world lifestyles? > >Should has nothing to do with it. As long as we pass laws propping up >fat lazy union workers and creating unrealistic minimum wages they will >catch us, they will pass us. You would be pleased to have Murken Workers living in third world conditions then? Thank you. You may now safely be ignored on the matter.
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