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Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote ...
> Greetings.
>
> I have posted "groups.doc". This is a BIG FILE. 4.9 MEGS, 1192 PAGES.

You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
to have your account revoked.

Would someone with the authority please
cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.
--
Dennis O'Connor                        dmoc@primenet.com
Vanity Web Page:    http://www.primenet.com/~dmoc/

In phx.general, Dennis O'Connor said something not totally unlike:
> You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
> to have your account revoked.

> Would someone with the authority please
> cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.

See, those of us using tin don't have that problem.  It doesn't even
recognize that a file was ever attached.

...which is why I maintain my stance that a unix proficiency test should
be required in order to gain any Internet access.  And why tin and lynx
will rule foreer.

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In article <pe6i3.125$85.2985@typ42b.nn.bcandid.com>, Console Cowboy
<console@die.spammer.choking.on.your.blood.org> wrote:

> See, those of us using tin don't have that problem.  It doesn't even
> recognize that a file was ever attached.

While users of MT-NewsWatcher note that there's a binary attached, but
it's not downloaded from the server unless requested...

> ...which is why I maintain my stance that a unix proficiency test should
> be required in order to gain any Internet access.  And why tin and lynx
> will rule foreer.

I use lynx a *lot* in the course of a day, but I've mostly given up on tin
- there are *better* newsreaders available. tin's got it's good points,
but with MT-NewsWatcher I can download and read multiple newsgroups and
threads simultaneously (read one newsgroup's messages while downloading
another set, download a newsgroups headers without getting the messages,
grab binaries if I need 'em while reading other newgroups, etc. The MT in
the name indicates "multi-threaded.") The filtering (regexp-based!) is
nice, too.

I don't necessarily agree with a *UNIX* proficiency test, but a basic
understanding of why it's really *stupid* to upload binaries in non-binary
groups, general network architecture, general (basic) security for
whatever platform they're using, etc. There should be a question on the
test as to why it's stupid to reply to a spammer, too.

I've been having fun for the last few weeks tracking down the script
kiddies who keep scanning various networks for NetBus or Back Orifice
servers. Don't they have anything better to do?

-- 
Send me junk mail, and get a nastygram for your provider.
John Groseclose (caradoc@neta.com)
http://www.neta.com/~caradoc

In <7m9glb$ivv$1@nnrp02.primenet.com>,
   "Dennis O'Connor" <dmoc@primenet.com> wrote:

:
:Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote ...
:> I have posted "groups.doc". This is a BIG FILE. 4.9 MEGS, 1192 PAGES.
:
:You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
:to have your account revoked.
:
:Would someone with the authority please
:cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.

Regardless of the phrasing of his article, it appears he probably just
"posted" it on the web page whose URL was in his message.

	/J

In <pe6i3.125$85.2985@typ42b.nn.bcandid.com>,
   Console Cowboy <console@die.spammer.choking.on.your.blood.org> wrote:
:See, those of us using tin don't have that problem.  It doesn't even
:recognize that a file was ever attached.
:
:...which is why I maintain my stance that a unix proficiency test should
:be required in order to gain any Internet access.  And why tin and lynx
:will rule foreer.

Since there was no file attached, you're giving credit where there was none
due. :-)

I haven't checked, but I assume he "posted" his huge document at his website,
URL included in his article.

	/J

there wasn't a file attached to the message. i am using pine, and would 
have noticed it right away.

On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Joel B Levin wrote:

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:59:19 GMT
> From: Joel B Levin <levinjb@gte.net>
> Newsgroups: primenet.general, phx.general, az.general, az.internet
> Subject: Re: NEWSGOUPS YOU DON'T SEE ON MOST ISP SERVERS - groups.doc (00/12)
> 
> In <pe6i3.125$85.2985@typ42b.nn.bcandid.com>,
>    Console Cowboy <console@die.spammer.choking.on.your.blood.org> wrote:
> :See, those of us using tin don't have that problem.  It doesn't even
> :recognize that a file was ever attached.
> :
> :...which is why I maintain my stance that a unix proficiency test should
> :be required in order to gain any Internet access.  And why tin and lynx
> :will rule foreer.
> 
> Since there was no file attached, you're giving credit where there was none
> due. :-)
> 
> I haven't checked, but I assume he "posted" his huge document at his website,
> URL included in his article.
> 
> 	/J
> 
> 
> 

i like lynx ant tin and pine also, they will always rule in my book.

On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Console Cowboy wrote:

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:27:17 GMT
> From: Console Cowboy <console@die.spammer.choking.on.your.blood.org>
> Newsgroups: primenet.general, phx.general, az.general, az.internet
> Subject: Re: NEWSGOUPS YOU DON'T SEE ON MOST ISP SERVERS - groups.doc (00/12)
> 
> In phx.general, Dennis O'Connor said something not totally unlike:
> > You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
> > to have your account revoked.
> 
> > Would someone with the authority please
> > cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.
> 
> See, those of us using tin don't have that problem.  It doesn't even
> recognize that a file was ever attached.
> 
> ...which is why I maintain my stance that a unix proficiency test should
> be required in order to gain any Internet access.  And why tin and lynx
> will rule foreer.
> 
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> URL temporarily removed                 |   Send flammage to /dev/null
> "Old mathematicians never die; they just disintegrate."
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> 
> 

In article <37892967.7846753@news.primenet.com>,
Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote:
>Some companys have there own FIREWALLED news server just to be used
>within there INTRANET. I have notice one Phoenix company is listed on
>the doc file. (I would like to know how they can see that
>information?)

They might simply know.  Or, more likely than not, someone cross-posted
an article to both internal and external newsgroups.  In this case, the
news server may have propagated the article to the outside world because
at least one of those groups was supposed to propagate.

Articles are normally distributed or propagated as long as one of the
newsgroups is carried at a given site, or as long as one of the newsgroups
propagates.  You'll see this all the time, especially from colleges.

-- 
Gregory Pratt                                 East Rutherford, NJ, USA
gpratt@frontiernet.net                        PGP public key available
http://www.frontiernet.net/~gpratt/

My only response to the message below was sent to Dennis by E-MAIL and
to <abuse@globalecent.net>, and <webmaster@globalcenter.net>. I do 
not think nothing else should be added to his RUDD REMARKS below.

--Stephen DeMardes--

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On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:20:59 -0700, "Dennis O'Connor"
<dmoc@primenet.com> wrote:

>
>Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote ...
>> Greetings.
>>
>> I have posted "groups.doc". This is a BIG FILE. 4.9 MEGS, 1192 PAGES.
>
>You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
>to have your account revoked.
>
>Would someone with the authority please
>cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.

Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote:
: My only response to the message below was sent to Dennis by E-MAIL and
: to <abuse@globalecent.net>, and <webmaster@globalcenter.net>. I do 
: not think nothing else should be added to his RUDD REMARKS below.
[snipped]

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't understand why abuse and
postmaster@globalcenter.net would care about his response to your initial
post.  If anything, abuse should reprimand you for posting a binary file
to non-binaries newsgroups in the first place.

Drew.

steved@primenet.com (Stephen DeMardes) wrote:

:My only response to the message below was sent to Dennis by E-MAIL and
:to <abuse@globalecent.net>, and <webmaster@globalcenter.net>. I do 
:not think nothing else should be added to his RUDD REMARKS below.
:

I doubt that the webmaster at GC really cares, and  his remarks,
(Dennis) were right on the mark. The only abuse I saw was on your
part. Posting such a large and pointless post was absolutely uncalled
for. 



:--Stephen DeMardes--
:
:**********************************************************
:
:On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:20:59 -0700, "Dennis O'Connor"
:<dmoc@primenet.com> wrote:
:
:>
:>Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote ...
:>> Greetings.
:>>
:>> I have posted "groups.doc". This is a BIG FILE. 4.9 MEGS, 1192 PAGES.
:>
:>You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
:>to have your account revoked.
:>
:>Would someone with the authority please
:>cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.


Regards,
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In article <3790c1f6.3916146@news.primenet.com>,
Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote:
>My only response to the message below was sent to Dennis by E-MAIL and
>to <abuse@globalecent.net>, and <webmaster@globalcenter.net>. I do
>not think nothing else should be added to his RUDD REMARKS below.

If you are dealing with this via abuse@globalcenter.net, it is a
private matter.  I don't see why you think any of us even care.

Why don't you cancel your original posting, since it isn't even accurate?

Follow-ups welcome in /dev/null.

-- 
Gregory Pratt                                 East Rutherford, NJ, USA
gpratt@frontiernet.net                        PGP public key available
http://www.frontiernet.net/~gpratt/

Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote:
: My only response to the message below was sent to Dennis by E-MAIL and
: to <abuse@globalecent.net>, and <webmaster@globalcenter.net>. I do 
: not think nothing else should be added to his RUDD REMARKS below.

: --Stephen DeMardes--

Not only did you post a huge binary file to a non-binary newsgroup, you
crossposted it to FOUR non-binary newsgroups.

I was willing to excuse your ignorance, but your followup clearly shows
you didn't get the point.

Dennis's remarks may have been rude, but there's no policy against
rudeness in the AUP at FGC/Primenet.  However, there IS a policy against
posting inappropriate binary files to non-binary groups and excessive
crossposting.

You are the person who is in danger from the abuse department, not Dennis.

--Paul

It is rumored that Kennedy crashed his plane trying to get away from a
plane full of paparazzi.  Also it is unclear, but Edward may have been
driving.  He showed up at a local bar, his suit was soaked in salt
water.  He kept muttering, "I am a good driver, it's not my fault."

Stay tuned for more details.

Geez, what a clueless wonder this guy his.
He really would be better of on AOL.
He ha no clue about USENET. Not a one.
--
Dennis O'Connor                        dmoc@primenet.com
Vanity Web Page:    http://www.primenet.com/~dmoc/

Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote ...
> My only response to the message below was sent to Dennis by E-MAIL and
> to <abuse@globalecent.net>, and <webmaster@globalcenter.net>. I do
> not think nothing else should be added to his RUDD REMARKS below.
>
> --Stephen DeMardes--
> **********************************************************
> On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:20:59 -0700, "Dennis O'Connor"
> <dmoc@primenet.com> wrote:
>
> >Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> wrote ...
> >> Greetings.
> >> I have posted "groups.doc". This is a BIG FILE. 4.9 MEGS, 1192 PAGES.
> >You do something this stupid again, I''ll campaign
> >to have your account revoked.
> >Would someone with the authority please
> >cancel this numnut's too-big post ? Thanks.

As in the pass, I have posted his RUDE remarks below to Frontier
Globalcenter. Dennis know how to dig himself into a hole by himself.

--Stephen DeMardes--

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On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:51:14 -0700, "Dennis O'Connor"
<dmoc@primenet.com> wrote:

>Geez, what a clueless wonder this guy his.
>He really would be better of on AOL.
>He ha no clue about USENET. Not a one.

Stephen DeMardes <steved@primenet.com> writes:
: As in the pass, I have posted his RUDE remarks below to Frontier
: Globalcenter. Dennis know how to dig himself into a hole by himself.


Steve, you gibbering maniac, get this through your skull:  Posting a
multimegabyte file where you bid brands you as a moron of the first order.
Now strap your sleeves back around yourself, and go take a nice nap.

steved@primenet.com (Stephen DeMardes) wrote:

:As in the pass, I have posted his RUDE remarks below to Frontier
:Globalcenter. Dennis know how to dig himself into a hole by himself.
:
:--Stephen DeMardes--
:

Your (horribly long, pointless, and foolish) post (made to
inappropriate newsgroups) WAS abuse. Remarks made by Dennis (and
others) were NOT. 

Hint: Just forget about the whole thing, and after some time passes,
people will forget about your foolishness. If you keep ranting about
it, you are making more of a fool of yourself, and it will take longer
for people to forget. Ranting will also cause people to make more
remarks that seem to hurt your feelings.


Regards,
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