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Article #127Re: NOW challenge to PK
From: Carol Ann Hemingway
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <34425F38.BB6FDC48@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> Alan Davis
<adavis@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> writes:
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>Male and female submit to each other.
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Men submit to god; the woman to her husband.
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>This does not mean subservience, it means service.
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Gender aparthied service.
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>It's the same 100-100 percent discussion we had before.
>50-50 relationships don't work, because they are
>selfish.
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That's fine; I don't mind 100-100, just so my roles
aren't prescribed.
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Relationships in which each respects the other
>100 percent of the time do work, they are based on
>love and service to each other.
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Fine, as long as my roles aren't defined I don't
mind mutual service.
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>The husband and wife promise to love, honor, and cherish.
>"Submit" means to give in, to give and take, to sometimes
>say "OK, I'll do it your way."
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So fine; I'll submit to _god_; the man can
submit to me...his wife.
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It also means to contribute>100 percent of ones effort to the health
and hapiness>of the family.
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That's simply not possible...realistically. One must
also contribute to one's employers, one's frineds, etc.
Nice thought tho.
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>> >I said nothing of the sort. I suggest that a mind set in which a
>> partner>bales when the going gets>tough is a breach of promise.
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>> It really depends upon the promise, and the actions
>> of the parties. Each case is unique; that's why
>> those who CLAIM a breach of promise have to go to
>> court to see if it realy was one, and that's only
where fault is at issue.
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>> Lefty
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>And that is also why a partnership that does
>not include a real promise is destined to break
>up.
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I agree with that; those who only say "I do" when they
mean "I do, for now" are doomed to break up. That simply
doesn't explain the inequity of PK.
Lefty
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 115ded,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid115ded,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: 15f5e3,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid15f5e3,public X-Google-Thread: 1082f5,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid1082f5,public X-Google-Thread: fdc4a,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdc4a,public X-Google-Thread: fe6e4,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe6e4,public X-Google-Thread: f5de8,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5de8,public From: leftylu@ix.netcom.com(Carol Ann Hemingway) Subject: Re: NOW challenge to PK Date: 1997/10/13 Message-ID: <61u13s$s7l@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> X-Deja-AN: 280193109 References: <61dror$2f2$6@gail.ripco.com> <61g8vn$4jr@xochi.tezcat.com> <343c2378.33748473@news1.ibm.net> <61hdk9$58j@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> <343CFB58.4FEE557A@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> <61jegt$1ac@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> <343DAB89.8382504C@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> <61o1td$k48@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> <34425F38.BB6FDC48@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> Organization: Netcom X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Oct 13 3:42:36 PM CDT 1997 Newsgroups: rci.general,chi.media,chi.general,alt.feminism,soc.women,soc.men,alt.politics.liberalism