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It is truly typical that some can not even quote the Bible without
selective editing...
Ephesians 5: 21, (The first sentence which you conviently left out),
says  .. Submit yourselves to one another because of your reverence
for Christ. 

Changes the whole context.


On 8 Oct 1997 10:58:21 -0500, holzman@xochi.tezcat.com (Daniel B.
Holzman) wrote:

>:}In article <61eh5k$cm5$1@Mars.mcs.net>, Karl Denninger <karl@MCS.COM> wrote:
>:}>
>:}>>but maybe just
>:}>>maybe they are seeing them as a group of men who want to make women
>:}>>subservient.  
>:}>
>:}>Again, the Gospel (if you believe in such) is rather clear on the truth of
>:}>this matter.  
>:}
>:}It sure is...
>:}
>:}Ephesians 5:22-28 (KJV)
>:}
>:}"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the
>:}Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the
>:}head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the 
>:}church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands 
>:}in every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved 
>:}the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse 
>:}it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to 
>:}himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; 
>:}but that it should be holy and without blemish. So ought men to love their 
>:}wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself."
>:}
>:}Exactly how can this be taken as anything except an hierarchical
>:}arrangement with the husband dominant and wife submissive?  [Hint:  The
>:}fact that the husband is being called to be a good ruler reinforces this
>:}notion of the hierarchical arrangement, it does not refute it.]
>:}
>:}>Why don't we talk about divorce in this context....  How do you end up in
>:}>divorce court if you're a PKer?  
>:}
>:}Oh, that's easy.  You tell your wife you're "taking back" your role as
>:}leader, just like McCartney wants you to.  Your wife then tells you she's
>:}not having any of that, and files for divorce if you continue to insist on 
>:}"taking back" your role as leader.
>:}
>:}-- 
>:}Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love 
>:}and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They
>:}took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. --  The
>:}word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly. 

..gary...

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