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Re: The Correct Challenge (WAS: Re: NOW challenge to PK)

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From: Tracy Hornschuch
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, M. Poletti wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:55:59 -0700, Tracy Hornschuch
> <browntr@engr.orst.edu> wrote:
> 
[snipped]
> 
> After the Civil War, it was Christian missionary societies that
> went down south to provide badly needed education for ex-slaves.
> It was Christian groups that pressured the British government to
> send the Anti-Slavery squadron to African waters to *suppress*
> the slave trade- a trade that African and Arab polities (Zanzibar)
> refused to stop. 

It was also the *good* Christians from the South that wanted to keep
slavery around.

Just take a look at the KKK, which believes in Christ... They claim to be
*good* Christians.  Oh, and yes... they *really* want to stop slavery and
hatred towards others based on their skin color and religious beliefs.

Sorry, you'll have to try harder.

> As for the "savages" teaching the good Christians "descent medical
> pratices, good environmental skills," it appears that Hornschuch
> is the one that needs to brush up on his/her history. In fact,
> it was Christian individuals and missions that introduced modern
> education, advanced technical skills and more advanced hygiene
> practices in many areas, particularly Africa. The great Kenyan
> leader Jomo Kenyatta for example was educated in one such
> mission school. 

WRONG!  It was the Native Americans of this country that taught the
*white* people how to sow this land.  How to grow veggies.  It was the
Native Americans of this country that practiced mid-wives and clean
medical practices and taught the *good* Christians.

Prior to learning these mid-wife and clean medical practices, when a woman
would go into labor she was taken into a room full of other women giving
birth.  A doctor NOT wearing any gloves would stick his hand up each woman
checking for the head of the baby.  He wouldn't clean himself before
checking the next woman in line.  Many women lost their lives because of
this.  Many women choose to stay at home and give birth there instead of
going into the hospitals.

The Native American tradition would be that a mid-wife would go into a
special *room* that was built just for the occation.  It was there that
they would wait till the baby was born.  It was the mid-wife that would
help the mother give birth.

> It was Christian individuals and groups that lobbied hard against
> such "advanced" non-Christian practices as head-hunting and
> cannibalism, and also the sutee in India, a quaint custom requiring
> that widows should be burnt alive after their husbands died. 

Oh yes, and it was the Christians who went from one country to another
burtally killing native peoples.  Look at South Africa, look at the US,
look at South America, Canada, etc...

Look at what Christians did to the Native Americans in this (the US)
country.  Take a good hard look.  They have done nothing to help them.  We
took from them.  We stool from them.  And for what?  In the Name of
Jesus Christ!

Tracy



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From: Tracy Hornschuch <browntr@engr.orst.edu>
Subject: Re: The Correct Challenge (WAS: Re: NOW challenge to PK)
Date: 1997/10/09
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