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In article <61dror$2f2$6@gail.ripco.com>,
John Paulus <shadowm@ripco.com> wrote:
>Last Friday night on Nightline, Patricia Ireland (President of the National
>Organization of Women) challenged Steve Chavis (is he related to Benjamin
>Chavis?), spokesperson for Promise Keepers, to sign a document essentially
>promising not to dominate/hurt women & gays.

[...]

>The document should include how, although PK believes that homosexuality is
>wrong and against God's plan for sexuality, it is no worse than the sins
>which each PK struggles with himself.  

It should do nothing of the sort.

If the PKs want to impress their critics, they'll promise not to
dominate/hurt women and gays unconditionally, rather than taking it as
yet another opportunity to remind everyone that they're
anti-homosexuality.  We already know they are.

>In regards to women, they should express their belief in Ephesians 5:21-30,
>and how men must be like Jesus in terms of holiness, and that no authority
>can be expected without it.

005:021 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. 
005:022 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the
Lord. 
005:023 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the
head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
005:024 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives
be to their own husbands in every thing. 
005:025 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church,
and gave himself for it; 
005:026 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water
by the word, 
005:027 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having
spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be
holy and without blemish. 
005:028 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that
loveth his wife loveth himself. 
005:029 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and
cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 
005:030 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 
005:031 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall
be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 

I'm sorry, but the PKs can either promise not to dominate their wives, OR
they can endorse Ephesians 5:22-30.  (Ephesians 5:21 is a part of a
different sentence.)  Ephesians 5:22-24 is quite explicit that this is
not a partnership of equals, but a hierarchical relationship wherein the
husband is the head of the wife.  Exhorting the husband not to abuse this
power does not change the nature of the relationship.

-- 
Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love 
and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They
took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. --  The
word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly.