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Re: The Correct Challenge (WAS: Re: NOW challenge to PK)

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From: Tracy Hornschuch
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 00:00
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On 8 Oct 1997, Daniel B. Holzman wrote:

> In article <61eh5k$cm5$1@Mars.mcs.net>, Karl Denninger <karl@MCS.COM> wrote:
> >
> >>but maybe just
> >>maybe they are seeing them as a group of men who want to make women
> >>subservient.  
> >
> >Again, the Gospel (if you believe in such) is rather clear on the truth of
> >this matter.  
> 
> It sure is...
> 
> Ephesians 5:22-28 (KJV)
> 
[Ephesians 5:22-28 snipped, get your bible and read from that]
> 
> Exactly how can this be taken as anything except an hierarchical
> arrangement with the husband dominant and wife submissive?  [Hint:  The
> fact that the husband is being called to be a good ruler reinforces this
> notion of the hierarchical arrangement, it does not refute it.]

Thank-you Daniel... That was good :-)

I thank-you for the help...

> >Why don't we talk about divorce in this context....  How do you end up in
> >divorce court if you're a PKer?  
> 
> Oh, that's easy.  You tell your wife you're "taking back" your role as
> leader, just like McCartney wants you to.  Your wife then tells you she's
> not having any of that, and files for divorce if you continue to insist on 
> "taking back" your role as leader.

Yes, then when he finds himself fight in court for his daughter he can
play the *poor me* role.  Afterwards he can write a book talking about his
*poor me* attitude and how everyone is out to get him :-)


> Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love 
> and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They
> took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. --  The
> word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly. 

By the way, I really like your sig here.  Did you write it?

Tracy

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From: Tracy Hornschuch <browntr@engr.orst.edu>
Subject: Re: The Correct Challenge (WAS: Re: NOW challenge to PK)
Date: 1997/10/08
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