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In <61eodj$g8m$1@Mars.mcs.net> karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: 
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>That's not the point Tracy.  The point is that my views on the PK
organization>have NOTHING to do with its biblical orientation and
everything to do with>what they're teaching people to do in their daily
lives.

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            The use of Jesus Christ to draw a crowd isn't a new tactic.
            Of course, more ministers will be getting involved in this
            conversation, especially minsters who have been preaching
            to egalitarian couples and their families.  Yes, I agree
            with you that this movement is more political than 
            religious.
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>>I see a>>bunch of men who mean well, but are not going about it in
the right way.

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            What makes you think they "mean well"; perhaps most of
            these men are simply dissatisfied with their role in 
            life.  Perhaps they long for the kinds of adulation 
            their fathers had ....as soldiers, as patriarchs.
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>In your opinion.
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>>They are leaving too many people out by depending on Christianity as
their>>source.

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            That's true.  My wise old grandmammy used to tell me;
          "whenever all men get together, women are oppressed, because
            then there's no one left to preside over".  :]
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>>What about the men out there who are not Christian?  What about the
men>>that are Jewish?
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>>Show me proof where the PKers include Jewish men, and what they
believe in>>and support.
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>Again, why? 

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            This is indeed a big problem for PK.  Of course, I'm
            forgetting the fact, that along with Jews, athiests,
            and any other non-Christian, they are excluding just
            over one half of the human race in granting full
            membership.....women.

                Lefty
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