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Daniel B. Holzman wrote:

> In article <3446E897.70081BCB@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM>,
> Alan Davis  <adavis@seas.gwu.edu.NOSPAM> wrote:



> >> No, sorry, PK theory has the man submitting to god and the wife
> >> submitting to her man.



> >You have bought into Lefty's myth.  PK has no such "theory."
> >How long have you been studying PK?
> >What are your references?
> >I've offered quotes, references, and people
> >to talk to to refute this.
>
> I need look no further than their own writings:

You need to look further into these writings.  Whatyou have presented includes too
much "...."
You present this "leadership" as a henious
aspect of interpersonal relationships, which it
is not.  If leadership is a poor thing, let's start at the
top and get  rid of the President, Vice-President,
Speaker of the House, etc.

Mr. Evans takes on male complacency, and incites
them to *spiritual* leadership.  This is something you
have no concept of, since you used those "........"s
to take out parts you don't understand.

> ". . . sit down with your wife and say something like this, "Honey, I've
> made a terrible mistake. .  . I gave up leading this family, and I
> forced you to take my place. Now I must reclaim that role.".
>  . . I'm not suggesting you ask for your role back, I'm urging you to
> take it back . . . there can be no compromise here. If you're going to
> lead, you must lead . . . Treat the lady gently and lovingly. But lead!"
>
>          -- Tony Evans, co-editor of Seven Promises
> of a Promise Keeper in "Spiritual Purity" chapter of
> Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper, p. 79-80.
>
> ". . . I believe that feminists of the more aggressive persuasion are
> frustrated women unable to find the proper male leadership. If a woman
> were receiving the right kind of love and attention and leadership, she
> would not want to be liberated from that."
>
>          -- Tony Evans

His opinion.

Before you condemn it, read it.
Who are these "more aggressive persuasion" feminists,
note he didn't say *all* feminists.

What do you have against love, attention, and leadership?
I do not feel oppressed, myself, when I follow the leadership
of our Boy Scout Troop Scoutmaster.  Nor do I feel
oppressed when I follow my wife's leadership.  Are you for
anarchy?

> "Don't you understand mister, you are royalty and God has chosen you to be
> the priest of your home?"
>
>          -- Tony Evans, co-editor of Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper in
> The Progressive, August 1996.

A priest is a servant.  What's your problem?

> "The demise of our community and culture is the fault of sissified men who
> have been overly influenced by women."
>
>          -- Tony Evans, co-editor of Seven Promises
> of a Promise Keeper in The Progressive, August 1996.

An opinion, it has some truth in it.

What are you afraid of here?

> There was also the op-ed in the CHicago /Trib/ a few weeks ago.  It was
> written by a female minister who had a parishoner who became a PKer.  He
> stopped coming to Church.  When she asked him about it, he told her she
> was no longer his pastor, because the PKers had told him that the proper
> order of things is "men lead, women follow."

That man made a mistake.Of the many men who went to DC,
you would not have to search very long
to find a sinner with an incomplete or
false idea or philosophy.  Do you now
take this one mistaken fellow and apply
it to millions?

> -
> Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love
> and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They
> took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. --  The
> word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly.



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