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Article #85Re: NOW challenge to PK
From: Nick Geovanis
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:00
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Scott A.Renner wrote:
>
> Many people hear PK speak of the husband as the leader of the home, and
> think of the Great Leader of Korea, or Hitler leading the German nation.
> That is, they associate leader with tyrant. Let me give you two other
> images of husband-as-leader that I think are a better fit to what PK has in
> mind:
>
> * You are climbing a mountain. Your husband is leading, setting the pitons
> to help you when it's your turn to climb. Of course, you are belaying
> him, keeping him safe as he climbs now. And, of course, you both decided
> that you wanted to climb the mountain.
>
> * You are finding a path through a swamp. Your husband is leading, trying
> to pick the best path through. If you happen to see that the ground is
> more solid to the right, then of course you'll tell him, and maybe you'll
> both go that way instead.
>
Note that the only role envisioned here for the husband is "leader of the
party of two, other member being wife". Sounds pretty restrictive to me (a
husband).
Hey. I've been reading "The Bible and the Ancient Near East" by Gordon and
Rendsberg (new edition just came out) and following along with the action in
my Old Testament (New English Bible translation). You know it's hard to keep
all of the sieges and devastations in order. Anyway, I accidentally opened
the OT to Deuteronomy 25 (or maybe God willed it?), and found a pearl of a
law which I hadn't noticed before. Here it is from the Revised Standard
Version:
Deuteronomy 25:11-12
11: When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one
draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is
beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the
private parts,
12: then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall have no pity.
There are many aspects of the Judeo-Christian tradition which I respect
fully (Luke 6-7), and many for which I have no respect whatsoever. Therefore
I do not call myself a Christian. But those who call themselves Christians
and make great public display of their "Christianity" are full of
prescriptions for others and not themselves. Our taxes, "rendered unto
Caesar", support the mightiest killing machine seen on earth. But our
Promisekeeper friends ignore that, and concentrate on their wives' behavior,
ignoring the Satanic works of which they are a part. Well your God has
already spoken to you on this matter, hear His words and fear Him:
Luke 16:15 (RSV)
But he said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves before men,
but God knows your hearts; for what is exalted among men is an abomination in
the sight of God."
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