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Re: Best Recordable Port'MD Player?

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From: Giles
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:00
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On Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:42:52 +1100, Anthony Curran
<epaacn@epa.ericsson.se> wrote:

>Giles wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> You might also want to consider looking at a portable DAT player like
>> the Sony TCD D8.  Not quite as small as the minidisk but better sound
>> quality.  With the low world wide sales of minidisk there is a danger
>> that the format will be dropped at some time. 
>
>if this was true then why is sony sponsoring 3 day music festivals in
>the states
>secondly why has there been a 10 fold increase in the sale of MD's in
>japan
>over the last year. MD's are being taken up everywhere and by every
>manufacturer

1)  What has the sponsorship of a music festival got to do with
anything - be more specific - is the idea to promote MD sales in the
States by any chance? (they could do with it)

2)  Everyone keeps talking about sales in Japan - this is next to
irrelevant - sales in the US and Europe are what is important - you
seem to be in the business - what are the sales figures for the US and
Europe?

>
> With the TCD D8 if you
>> use 90 metre computer grade tapes (not recommended by Sony) you can
>> record 3 hours of music. If you used the LP mode which drops the
>> response to 15khz but would probably still probably be on par with MD
>> quality, you can get 6 hours on such a tape.
>> 
>> Giles
>
>get real MD is sampled at 44.1 khz and not 15 Khz as you believe. the 
>current generation MD's are using 20 bits and if you read the article
>in electronics australia (Oct 96?) regarding the review of the JA3es
>then the guy doing the review put MD ahead of DAT after reviewing the
> MD recorder in question

I suggest you read a bit more carefully.  What  I said was that the
TCD D8 - a DAT player - has a frequency RESPONSE - of 15khz in LP
mode.  I was not referring to a MD player and I did not mention
sampling rates in the paragraph you quote at all.  I said that a DAT
recording made in the LP mode was probably on par with a recording
made on a MD player.  I am well aware that the sampling rate of MD is
44.1 khz.

The 20 bits thing is misleading.  The main effect of using 20 bits
rather than 16 is it increases the dynamic range that the medium can
handle - that is the difference between the quietest sound and the
loudest.  It largly lowers the noise floor allowing you to record
quieter sounds.  It lowers it so much in fact that there are not many
recording studios that have low enough background noise to make it
possible to record such quiet sounds.  There are even fewer living
rooms with low enough backround noise to enable one to play back and
hear such sounds.

I will try and obtain the review you mention.  If the reviewer states
that an MD player produces a higher quality sound recording and
reproduction than is possible with DAT then I will be surprised, as
the MD medium is technicly inferior to DAT.  The reviewers opinion
would also run counter to that of every comparison between the media
that I have read.  You only said the reviewer 'put it ahead' so maybe
the reviwer had criteria other than sound quality - I shall have to
read it and find out.
>
>Then you have the wear and tear on DAT tapes and you do not have instant
>random
>access on DAT's. 
>
I have allready dealt with the wear issue in another post but to
summarise - you will probably grow tired of the recording long bewore
the tape audibly wears out.

Giles
>> 
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:19:22 +0000, Hosuni <hsh2@coventry.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>
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From: cnocbui@cygnus.uwa.edu.au* (Giles)
Subject: Re: Best Recordable Port'MD Player?
Date: 1997/01/14
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