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Re: Best Recordable Port'MD Player?

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From: Mike Glantz
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:00
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lucifersam wrote:
> Wrong again by the 5 or 6 gen of md it will easily surpass both cd and
> dat because of drastically improved techniques in the atrac chip
> possibly implamenting mpeg II or mpeg III.

Um, I happen to be a MD fan, but let's keep the facts straight. ATRAC
is still a lossy, perceptual coding algorithm with audible generation
losses. At what point they become audible depends on the person and
the material. Tests have been reported that *nobody* can hear
differences
on the 2rd generation on *any* material. Beyond that, I would make no
claims, and I would certainly not advocate MD where multi-generation
lossless processing is a requirement (which is the case in much
recording work, but not all). After several generations, CD and DAT
are simply going to win, by definition.

On the technical side, while some of the mpeg audio compression
algorithms are quite similar to ATRAC (and PASC used in DCC), they
aren't identical. ATRAC is a Sony original, and not compatible
with any of the mpeg algorithms.

> Check out this web page for more info on MD-------
> http://www.connact.com/~eaw/minidisc.html

Indeed the minidisc page maintained by Eric Woudenberg and
others is an excellent source of MD info, particularly if one
is looking for facts and has an open mind.
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From: Mike Glantz <mike.glantz@grenoble.rxrc.xerox.com>
Subject: Re: Best Recordable Port'MD Player?
Date: 1997/01/16
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