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Re: Neumann D-01 no room tone!?

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From: Soundhaspriority
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:10
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"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:17 -0500, geoff wrote
> (in article <nbCdnTIffoxVYTfUnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com>):
>
>> Ty Ford wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was recording someone's voice yesterday using the-D-01. As I began
>>> to edit, I realized that as the cursor moved past the end of the
>>> file, there was no change in sound. The selfnoise of the system was
>>> so low that I couldn't really hear the usual room tone to digital
>>> black drop off.
>>
>> Your room was presumably still there ! If there was no room tone, then
>> that
>> would either imply the self-noise was so high it masked it, or that there
>> is
>> some noise-gating funcion going on.
>>
>> geoff
>
> What I call room tone includes mic self noise and preamp noise as well as
> atmos in the space. Do you consider it something different?
>
> Ty Ford
>
Yes, I consider it the natural resonances of the room. All rooms have a
"seashell effect", ala the Helmholtz resonator.  The Audio Cyclopedia taught
me this.  It is much louder than the self noise of a quiet mike, except in
extremely exceptional circumstances. Rooms really do put out "tones."  And
when I'm on the subway in New York, I found that the subway puts out
"tones", too.  In fact I hear "tones" everywhere I go.  Am I mad?

I have had one experience where there was a relative absence of room tone. I
was experimenting with a figure-8 mike, in a room that had plenty of tone to
the ear. The figure-8 mike made it appear absent by comparison. Then, a
couple hours after I started recording, I discovered that the mike weren't
plugged in.  This explained the relative absence of room tone.

Now I'm going to eat some Twinkies.

Bob Morein
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:10:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Neumann D-01  no room tone!?
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