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Article #1604Re: Neumann D-01 no room tone!?
From: Soundhaspriority
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:10
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:10
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"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message news:0001HW.C5D074E400FA107DF0284530@News.Individual.NET... > On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:17 -0500, geoff wrote > (in article <nbCdnTIffoxVYTfUnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com>): > >> Ty Ford wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was recording someone's voice yesterday using the-D-01. As I began >>> to edit, I realized that as the cursor moved past the end of the >>> file, there was no change in sound. The selfnoise of the system was >>> so low that I couldn't really hear the usual room tone to digital >>> black drop off. >> >> Your room was presumably still there ! If there was no room tone, then >> that >> would either imply the self-noise was so high it masked it, or that there >> is >> some noise-gating funcion going on. >> >> geoff > > What I call room tone includes mic self noise and preamp noise as well as > atmos in the space. Do you consider it something different? > > Ty Ford > Yes, I consider it the natural resonances of the room. All rooms have a "seashell effect", ala the Helmholtz resonator. The Audio Cyclopedia taught me this. It is much louder than the self noise of a quiet mike, except in extremely exceptional circumstances. Rooms really do put out "tones." And when I'm on the subway in New York, I found that the subway puts out "tones", too. In fact I hear "tones" everywhere I go. Am I mad? I have had one experience where there was a relative absence of room tone. I was experimenting with a figure-8 mike, in a room that had plenty of tone to the ear. The figure-8 mike made it appear absent by comparison. Then, a couple hours after I started recording, I discovered that the mike weren't plugged in. This explained the relative absence of room tone. Now I'm going to eat some Twinkies. Bob Morein
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