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Re: Neumann D-01 no room tone!?

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From: Rheilly Phoull
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:47
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"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
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> "Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:17 -0500, geoff wrote
>> (in article <nbCdnTIffoxVYTfUnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com>):
>>
>>> Ty Ford wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I was recording someone's voice yesterday using the-D-01. As I began
>>>> to edit, I realized that as the cursor moved past the end of the
>>>> file, there was no change in sound. The selfnoise of the system was
>>>> so low that I couldn't really hear the usual room tone to digital
>>>> black drop off.
>>>
>>> Your room was presumably still there ! If there was no room tone, then
>>> that
>>> would either imply the self-noise was so high it masked it, or that 
>>> there
>>> is
>>> some noise-gating funcion going on.
>>>
>>> geoff
>>
>> What I call room tone includes mic self noise and preamp noise as well as
>> atmos in the space. Do you consider it something different?
>>
>> Ty Ford
>>
> Yes, I consider it the natural resonances of the room. All rooms have a
> "seashell effect", ala the Helmholtz resonator.  The Audio Cyclopedia 
> taught
> me this.



Would that be the "Worthless one" (from your previous posting) or do you 
have another ??





 It is much louder than the self noise of a quiet mike, except in
> extremely exceptional circumstances. Rooms really do put out "tones."  And
> when I'm on the subway in New York, I found that the subway puts out
> "tones", too.  In fact I hear "tones" everywhere I go.  Am I mad?
>
> I have had one experience where there was a relative absence of room tone. 
> I
> was experimenting with a figure-8 mike, in a room that had plenty of tone 
> to
> the ear. The figure-8 mike made it appear absent by comparison. Then, a
> couple hours after I started recording, I discovered that the mike weren't
> plugged in.  This explained the relative absence of room tone.
>
> Now I'm going to eat some Twinkies.
>
> Bob Morein
> 
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Subject: Re: Neumann D-01  no room tone!?
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