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Article #1605Re: Neumann D-01 no room tone!?
From: Rheilly Phoull
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:47
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:47
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"Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:C5D0C65A.4D3E3%nowhere@nowhere.com... > > "Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:0001HW.C5D074E400FA107DF0284530@News.Individual.NET... >> On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:17 -0500, geoff wrote >> (in article <nbCdnTIffoxVYTfUnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@giganews.com>): >> >>> Ty Ford wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was recording someone's voice yesterday using the-D-01. As I began >>>> to edit, I realized that as the cursor moved past the end of the >>>> file, there was no change in sound. The selfnoise of the system was >>>> so low that I couldn't really hear the usual room tone to digital >>>> black drop off. >>> >>> Your room was presumably still there ! If there was no room tone, then >>> that >>> would either imply the self-noise was so high it masked it, or that >>> there >>> is >>> some noise-gating funcion going on. >>> >>> geoff >> >> What I call room tone includes mic self noise and preamp noise as well as >> atmos in the space. Do you consider it something different? >> >> Ty Ford >> > Yes, I consider it the natural resonances of the room. All rooms have a > "seashell effect", ala the Helmholtz resonator. The Audio Cyclopedia > taught > me this. Would that be the "Worthless one" (from your previous posting) or do you have another ?? It is much louder than the self noise of a quiet mike, except in > extremely exceptional circumstances. Rooms really do put out "tones." And > when I'm on the subway in New York, I found that the subway puts out > "tones", too. In fact I hear "tones" everywhere I go. Am I mad? > > I have had one experience where there was a relative absence of room tone. > I > was experimenting with a figure-8 mike, in a room that had plenty of tone > to > the ear. The figure-8 mike made it appear absent by comparison. Then, a > couple hours after I started recording, I discovered that the mike weren't > plugged in. This explained the relative absence of room tone. > > Now I'm going to eat some Twinkies. > > Bob Morein >
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