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"Eric P." <ericp06@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> In article <C0BF517E.30E38%soundhaspriority@fe03.buzzardnews.com>,
> "soundhaspriority@yahoo.com" <soundhaspriority@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "LeepinCat" <nulladdress123@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I DID search the group for previous threads but didn't readily find
>> > an answer
>> > without wading through a lot of rhetoric. But in your responses, the
>> > differences
>> > of opinion were very enlightening.
>> >
>> >   The, lofty, pretentious, "Chevdo's" demeaning response generated some
>> > helpful opinions. IMO, he should start his OWN, moderated, pro group.
>> > Then he could pick and choose, who is worthy of his time, and infinite
>> > wisdom, and avoid being bothered by the learning curve that most people
>> > experience
>> > regardless of the subject of conversation.  Maybe, "rec.audio.pro.
>> > jackass" ?
>>
>> Chevdo is one of the worst "pros" on this group for getting a reasonable
>> answer.  What is a "pro", anyway?  I've now been recording my project for
>> several weeks, and am feeling pretty professional about it.  No one here
>> would help me, and I still managed to figure out what equipment I needed
>> and
>> how to hook it up, thanks to the good people at J&R Music World.  They've
>> turned out to be the most helpful of any of the so-called "pro audio"
>> companies, and I've got lots of gear now so I guess that makes me a
>> "pro",
>> too.
>>
>> So if you just keep hammering these guys, you'll eventually get an answer
>> that makes some sense.
>>
>> Luv,
>> Bob Morein
>
> You could claim to be a pro if you own/use pro gear, I suppose, but the
> U.S. government defines a professional as one who earns at least $1000
> in a given line of employment...or at least that was the figure some
> years back. I've been out of the country and back this decade, so I'm
> not up to speed on current laws and whatnot.
>
> Roll tape,
> Eric


Hi Eric,

When I read the OP I wondered if it was simply a troll, or
intended to be humorous:-)

The definition you provide is closely to the term
"professional" as I understand it.  One earns one's
principal income from recording to a level which
equals the national average wage.

Within the industry, we understand the term to
mean a competent, fully trained, widely experienced
individual, working at a level which one reaches
after several years, not several weeks as the
OP proposes.

With the exception of salaried staff, most recording
engineers are freelance, so the term "full time
employment" cannot be used here.

I started my career as a professional recording
engineer with a four year training period, -
work experience and college.  I spent my first year in
listening and analysis, and being taught how the
performance and studio acoustic were captured
on tape. One needs to learn how to listen and acquire
the art of aural perception.  A formal education
in music is a great advantage, as is knowledge of
electronics.  This combination is covered by the
Tonmeister course, in universities and training
establishments here in the EU.


A professional, particularly one on
the staff of a major studio has to be
capable of recording a rock band, a jazz ensemble
or a symphony orchestra equally well, and fully
understand the difference of techniques required
for each.

A professional has to be able to read a score,
and edit a tape to a "mark up" provided by the
producer. A professional has to know what to
do when the artist produces a CD and says,
"This is the guitar sound, (or the vocal sound)
I want" This kind of expertise takes a long time
to acquire. Most studio engineers start out as
assistants. Many stay at that grade, and provide
excellent service as a right hand men.

It is a simple exercise to sit someone at a 48
channel digital console.with a 65 piece
orchestra on the other side of the glass.
You can tell within 5mins whether or not
he/she is a "pro":-))

regards to all

Iain