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What I don't understand is why he would want to record the output of LSP to 
an audio track when can can just simply bounce it to an audio without 
recording it in realtime.

"Sue Morton" <867-5309@domain.invalid> wrote in message 
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>I don't have a 2496 so I may not be able to help... I also don't have HS2 
>(I have Sonar 7) and I'm going to assume the capabilities are similar, you 
>may have to adap!.  So here goes anyway!  If you've covered all this 
>already, please ignore.
>
>>> The process should be to record a midi track (...)
>
> What is supplying the material to record?  How is the MIDI coming in?
>
> To debug this problem I'd dispense with that and start with a canned MIDI 
> track to get the synth working.
>
>>> ... which you can hear via
>>> the Livesynth Pro output. Then record the output of the Livesynth as
>>> an audio file on another audio track.
>
> Not had a problem doing this with other synths.  I haven't used Livesynth 
> Pro in a long time because you can only run one instance of it, if you run 
> more than one you'll experience problems and/or crashes.  There might be 
> something Livesynth Pro needs that the others don't?
>
> Here's what I would try:
>
> 1.  Open a .mid file directly from HS2's File -> Open menu. Pare it down 
> to one track or two tracks (like Piano LH/RH) just to keep it simple.  (Or 
> create a bogus one with piano roll as desired.)
>
> 2. Open the Synth rack and insert LiveSynth Pro, uncheck all input/output 
> options except First Synth Audio Output.  This should insert a Synth Track 
> into the project.  You now have one or two MIDI tracks and a Synth track.
>
> 3.  Do whatever is required to load a bank/samples into Livesynth Pro, 
> take note of bank number and sample number for, say, grand piano.
>
> 3.  Go back to the first (only?) MIDI track and make sure the Input = 
> None, Output = Livesynth Pro, Channel = 1, Bank = <bank in LSP>, Patch = 
> <patch in LSP>.  Repeat with second MIDI track if you have one, change 
> Channel to 2, and whatever Bank and Patch.  I'd stay with the same ones 
> for this test, just to simplify.
>
> 4.  On the Synth Track set the Input = LiveSynth Pro.  You may have 
> multiple choices, I don't recall.  Pick one.  Set Output = <whichever on 
> your AP goes to your speakers>
>
> If you've done everything correctly here, and LiveSynth is properly loaded 
> with a bank and patch(es), you should hear something when you play back. 
> If not, then go back through and see where the trouble is.  Is it LSP? 
> Delete LSP and follow steps above to add a different synth and check 
> again.
>
> I'm assuming you've heard sound out of the AP before, so you should know 
> what the output selection should be.  If not, try others.  Does the AP 
> mixer applet have any outputs muted?
>
> Let us know if you can get this far, or if you've already done this and 
> have no trouble.  Then we can go further.
>
> --
> Sue Morton
>
> geoff wrote:
>> Something more specific in the subject may attract more responses....
>>
>> geoff
>>
>> Doc wrote:
>>> Hoping someone with a strong grasp of how things work with an M-Audio
>>> Audiophile 2496 can assist.
>>>
>>> I'm using Cakewalk Home Studio 2. I've using Livesynth Pro DXI synth,
>>> which plays SF2 Soundfonts.
>>>
>>> The process should be to record a midi track which you can hear via
>>> the Livesynth Pro output. Then record the output of the Livesynth as
>>> an audio file on another audio track.  I'm encountering problems
>>> doing this. It seems you should also be able to record the output of
>>> the Livesynth real time, but that isn't working out either.
>>>
>>> Admittedly, I feel a bit of confusion over the options available with
>>> the Audiophile 2496 and how they all interact.
>>>
>>> In an Audio Track in CWHS2 the input options are:
>>>
>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi 1/2
>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4
>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi 5/6
>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi Mon. Mixer
>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP 1/2
>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Mon. Mixer
>>>
>>> It's my understanding that the 3/4 & 5/6 options would be applicable
>>> with more than 1 Audiophile card installed and as such aren't used in
>>> my case.  Under each of these are also individual L & R input options
>>> but I'm omitting these and focusing on the stereo options. Also
>>> omitted are the S/PDIF options since I'm not using S/PDIF.
>>>
>>> I'm not clear what the difference is between the options with "Multi"
>>> in the name and the ones that don't have it.
>>>
>>> Output options as they appear are:
>>>
>>> A (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 1/2)
>>> B (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4)
>>> C (M-Audio Delta AP 1/2)
>>> D (M-Audio Delta AP S/PDIF)
>>> E (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 1/2)
>>> F (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4)
>>> G (M-Audio Delta AP 1/2)
>>>
>>> Not sure why there are duplications - A & E, B & F, C & G
>>>
>>> The Patchbay/Router options that appear material to this issue are:
>>>
>>> WavOut 1/2
>>> Monitor Mixer
>>> H/W In 1/2
>>>
>>> On the audio track I'm recording to, the only input setting that
>>> allows me to get simultaneous output from the Livesynth and recording
>>> on an audio track when playing back a midi file I've already recorded
>>> is Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Mon. Mixer.  However the resulting sound
>>> has a tinny, "phased" sound to it.  The only way around this seems to
>>> be to set the "out" of the audio track to which I'm recording to
>>> something that isn't used such as B (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4)
>>> during recording and then going back to one of the 1/2 selections for
>>> playback.
>>>
>>> In all cases above, the only way I can hear anything is with either
>>> WavOut 1/2 or Monitor Mixer selected on the M-Audio Control Panel.
>>> Selecting the H/W In 1/2 option doesn't allow me to hear anything.
>>>
>>> I have no problems recording audio from an external source going into
>>> the line-in, it just seems to be an issue when recording internally
>>> like this.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all input, happy holidays
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