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Well the output of the LSP *is* an audio track (of sorts), you're right, no 
extra step to record to audio track required.  I thought we'd start by 
getting the synth aspect working, THEN worry about input MIDI and live 
monitoring, and bouncing the output.

-- 
Sue Morton

sambodidley wrote:
> What I don't understand is why he would want to record the output of
> LSP to an audio track when can can just simply bounce it to an audio
> without recording it in realtime.
>
> "Sue Morton" <867-5309@domain.invalid> wrote in message
> news:X7Ecj.777$pA7.398@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> I don't have a 2496 so I may not be able to help... I also don't
>> have HS2 (I have Sonar 7) and I'm going to assume the capabilities
>> are similar, you may have to adap!.  So here goes anyway!  If you've
>> covered all this already, please ignore.
>>
>>>> The process should be to record a midi track (...)
>>
>> What is supplying the material to record?  How is the MIDI coming in?
>>
>> To debug this problem I'd dispense with that and start with a canned
>> MIDI track to get the synth working.
>>
>>>> ... which you can hear via
>>>> the Livesynth Pro output. Then record the output of the Livesynth
>>>> as an audio file on another audio track.
>>
>> Not had a problem doing this with other synths.  I haven't used
>> Livesynth Pro in a long time because you can only run one instance
>> of it, if you run more than one you'll experience problems and/or
>> crashes.  There might be something Livesynth Pro needs that the
>> others don't? Here's what I would try:
>>
>> 1.  Open a .mid file directly from HS2's File -> Open menu. Pare it
>> down to one track or two tracks (like Piano LH/RH) just to keep it
>> simple.  (Or create a bogus one with piano roll as desired.)
>>
>> 2. Open the Synth rack and insert LiveSynth Pro, uncheck all
>> input/output options except First Synth Audio Output.  This should
>> insert a Synth Track into the project.  You now have one or two MIDI
>> tracks and a Synth track. 3.  Do whatever is required to load a 
>> bank/samples into Livesynth
>> Pro, take note of bank number and sample number for, say, grand
>> piano. 3.  Go back to the first (only?) MIDI track and make sure the 
>> Input =
>> None, Output = Livesynth Pro, Channel = 1, Bank = <bank in LSP>,
>> Patch = <patch in LSP>.  Repeat with second MIDI track if you have
>> one, change Channel to 2, and whatever Bank and Patch.  I'd stay
>> with the same ones for this test, just to simplify.
>>
>> 4.  On the Synth Track set the Input = LiveSynth Pro.  You may have
>> multiple choices, I don't recall.  Pick one.  Set Output =
>> <whichever on your AP goes to your speakers>
>>
>> If you've done everything correctly here, and LiveSynth is properly
>> loaded with a bank and patch(es), you should hear something when you
>> play back. If not, then go back through and see where the trouble
>> is.  Is it LSP? Delete LSP and follow steps above to add a different
>> synth and check again.
>>
>> I'm assuming you've heard sound out of the AP before, so you should
>> know what the output selection should be.  If not, try others.  Does
>> the AP mixer applet have any outputs muted?
>>
>> Let us know if you can get this far, or if you've already done this
>> and have no trouble.  Then we can go further.
>>
>> --
>> Sue Morton
>>
>> geoff wrote:
>>> Something more specific in the subject may attract more
>>> responses.... geoff
>>>
>>> Doc wrote:
>>>> Hoping someone with a strong grasp of how things work with an
>>>> M-Audio Audiophile 2496 can assist.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Cakewalk Home Studio 2. I've using Livesynth Pro DXI
>>>> synth, which plays SF2 Soundfonts.
>>>>
>>>> The process should be to record a midi track which you can hear via
>>>> the Livesynth Pro output. Then record the output of the Livesynth
>>>> as an audio file on another audio track.  I'm encountering problems
>>>> doing this. It seems you should also be able to record the output
>>>> of the Livesynth real time, but that isn't working out either.
>>>>
>>>> Admittedly, I feel a bit of confusion over the options available
>>>> with the Audiophile 2496 and how they all interact.
>>>>
>>>> In an Audio Track in CWHS2 the input options are:
>>>>
>>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi 1/2
>>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4
>>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi 5/6
>>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Multi Mon. Mixer
>>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP 1/2
>>>> Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Mon. Mixer
>>>>
>>>> It's my understanding that the 3/4 & 5/6 options would be
>>>> applicable with more than 1 Audiophile card installed and as such
>>>> aren't used in my case.  Under each of these are also individual L
>>>> & R input options but I'm omitting these and focusing on the
>>>> stereo options. Also omitted are the S/PDIF options since I'm not
>>>> using S/PDIF. I'm not clear what the difference is between the options 
>>>> with
>>>> "Multi" in the name and the ones that don't have it.
>>>>
>>>> Output options as they appear are:
>>>>
>>>> A (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 1/2)
>>>> B (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4)
>>>> C (M-Audio Delta AP 1/2)
>>>> D (M-Audio Delta AP S/PDIF)
>>>> E (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 1/2)
>>>> F (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4)
>>>> G (M-Audio Delta AP 1/2)
>>>>
>>>> Not sure why there are duplications - A & E, B & F, C & G
>>>>
>>>> The Patchbay/Router options that appear material to this issue are:
>>>>
>>>> WavOut 1/2
>>>> Monitor Mixer
>>>> H/W In 1/2
>>>>
>>>> On the audio track I'm recording to, the only input setting that
>>>> allows me to get simultaneous output from the Livesynth and
>>>> recording on an audio track when playing back a midi file I've
>>>> already recorded is Stereo M-Audio Delta AP Mon. Mixer.  However
>>>> the resulting sound has a tinny, "phased" sound to it.  The only
>>>> way around this seems to be to set the "out" of the audio track to
>>>> which I'm recording to something that isn't used such as B
>>>> (M-Audio Delta AP Multi 3/4) during recording and then going back
>>>> to one of the 1/2 selections for playback.
>>>>
>>>> In all cases above, the only way I can hear anything is with either
>>>> WavOut 1/2 or Monitor Mixer selected on the M-Audio Control Panel.
>>>> Selecting the H/W In 1/2 option doesn't allow me to hear anything.
>>>>
>>>> I have no problems recording audio from an external source going
>>>> into the line-in, it just seems to be an issue when recording
>>>> internally like this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all input, happy holidays