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Article #1040Re: MP3 Vs ATRAC : Which is worse ?
From: Andr� Huisman
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:00
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Pascal heeft geschreven in bericht <369A4971.D050DBD3@usa.net>... >Well... ATRAC is known to suck real badly with it's 4:1 compression (is >this the one?). Yes, it's the one (4.9-1 to be exact). Where do you base your opinion on? >It is not using a psychoacoustic model like the MPEG >Layer 3 standard. Isn't it? ATRAC stand for Adaptive TRansform Acoustic Coding. In an article that expains the workings of ATRAC it is said: ATRAC uses, just like PASC, a form of acoustic masking. Now the funny thing is that PASC actually is Mpeg Layer 1 and it can be compared to ATRAC. So it is using a psychoacoustic model. >But honestly, technically speaking, I don't know much >about the ATRAC standard other than it sucks. :) What recorder did you use and how long ago is it. What did you record and what was the version of the ATRAC encoder used. I can't hear any difference between a DAT recording and a MD recording most of the time. Sometimes the MD recording sounds even better, other times the DAT sounds better. Differences are small to say the least; using a cheap MDS-JE510 and a pretty expensive DAT. >About the MP3 standard, well... you have total control over how much >compression you get. The "internet standard" of 128kbps will sound okay >but it is known not to sound right on a good system (I couldn't try it >myself). You can compress at 160kbps, 192, 256 and 384kbps (or lower >than 128kbps) for example. At 256kbps experts CAN'T distinguish between >the original signal and the compressed one. Same goes for MD. You probably have bad experience with one of the first MD players (they did sound awfully harsh). Andr� Huisman New Line licht & geluid newline@usa.net http://www.xs4all.nl/~newline/ --- pardon my French, I'm Dutch ---
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