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Arny Krueger wrote:

> 
> Good question. People like Pinkerton and I tell people that
> CD players tend to sound very much alike.

You impose your misconceptions upon people, you try to rob them of their 
freedom of choice and preference, you try to rob them of their potential 
audio enjoyment. It's almost criminal. There is almost a touch of evil 
in ferstlers cynicism of "everything sounds the same you dumb tweakos" 
attitude, for instance.

What's more, you people seem to be going after the high-end industry. 
You'd be happy if they all just buckled up and whithered away into 
bankruptcy. I don't want my kids to have to listen to music from wicked 
sounding metallic assembly line crap gear produced with only 
cost-effectiveness in mind and nothing else.

> Therefore they
> should make their CD player choices based other factors that
> are more important to them.

Thus you mislead them.

> 
> Unfortunately we've got the technologically backward
> nay-sayers like Fella, who want people to believe that their
> are mind-boggling audible differences between CD players,
> amplifiers and everything else.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "mind-boggling" .. When or if a piece of 
equipment introduces mind-boggling huge differences to the music, it is 
IMHO, somewhat "improper". It almost leads to means taking over the end, 
that is, we have audio equipment in order to be able to listen to music, 
yes, but with an amp like the BAT, you have music in order to be able to 
listen to the luscious, extravagant, grandiose sound of the amp!  Some 
might "prefer" to have things that way, OK. But to me, it's improper, 
though I am not offended by it in any way.

(It was quite a surprise actually. I had expected the BAT to sound more 
like the lean, fast densen but with a better, a bit more daring bass 
slam. Though it was fast, not the usually flatulent, slow bass one gets 
from tube amps, but it turned out it was a tube-wannabe in the midrange.)


> They're the guys who are
> peddling tests - in their case sighted, non-level-matched,
> non-time-synched listening tests.

You are the one peddling tests. I just merely say that the tests you 
meddle do not work, since they kill off existing subtle differences, 
what with the setup and the actual act of being subjected to them. I 
just resist. I trust what I hear.



> in their case people should buy
> this amplifier and test it at home,

You do not need to buy something to test it at home. I never said that 
people should constantly buy amps and switch them around. You have 
trouble enough trying to express yourself, don't try it on my behalf also.


> 
> Agreed, what that kind of test procedure there's no
> level-matching and there's no time-synching so of course
> everything will sound different, which is what Art and Fella
> keep pushing.

This is another example of your bullshit arny. There has been many 
instances where with sighted auditioning a given piece of equipment 
sounded almost identical to the piece it was supposed to better.


> 
> Since when are you an expert about testing, Middius? 


Compared to you my dog is an expert-shlexpert on testing. And just 
think, I don't even have a dog. :)