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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:51:42 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
<YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:

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>"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message 
>news:scc9d1h83hel4v8u5goe1plhnohbe2t8ek@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:45:15 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
>> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>"Howard Ferstler" <ferstle@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:42D47BFB.8C63757F@attglobal.net...
>>>> Clyde Slick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com...
>>>>> > On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since
>>>>> >>they should all sound the same according to tests.
>>>>
>>>>> >In level-matched blind listening tests, these three
>>>>> > players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect.
>>>>
>>>>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again.
>>>>
>>>> You are just trying to rationalize the fact that you simply
>>>> must have something exotic and esoteric to believe in. (That
>>>> this involves audio gear and not some kind of religious
>>>> deity and a need for salvation shows a monumental smallness
>>>> of mind.) That you place expectation effects higher up on
>>>> the scale than simply not hearing differences during a DBT
>>>> says more about you as a true believer than it does about
>>>> any kind of audio gear.
>>>>
>>>Take a good look at the test methodology, it only accounts
>>>for eliminating one side of the expectation effects, the expectation
>>>that there will be differences. It does not address eliminating 
>>>expectation
>>>effects, based upon an expectation that they will sound the same. Thus,
>>>this so-called "unbiased" test is actually quite biased towards
>>>producing your "expected" results.
>>
>> Bullshit. Those tests are taken by people from both sides of the
>> fence. The results are the same, only the reactions vary! :-)
>>
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>That they are taken by people from both sides is irrelevant.
>Its the test design  that skews the results, so that they tend to
>be the same

Still the same old mantra, eh Sackman? The results do indeed tend to
be the same. That's because most decent equipment really does sound
the same, whatever guillible fools like you would like to believe.

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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering