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"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:51:42 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:45:15 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
>>> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Howard Ferstler" <ferstle@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:42D47BFB.8C63757F@attglobal.net...
>>>>> Clyde Slick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com...
>>>>>> > On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since
>>>>>> >>they should all sound the same according to tests.
>>>>>
>>>>>> >In level-matched blind listening tests, these three
>>>>>> > players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are just trying to rationalize the fact that you simply
>>>>> must have something exotic and esoteric to believe in. (That
>>>>> this involves audio gear and not some kind of religious
>>>>> deity and a need for salvation shows a monumental smallness
>>>>> of mind.) That you place expectation effects higher up on
>>>>> the scale than simply not hearing differences during a DBT
>>>>> says more about you as a true believer than it does about
>>>>> any kind of audio gear.
>>>>>
>>>>Take a good look at the test methodology, it only accounts
>>>>for eliminating one side of the expectation effects, the expectation
>>>>that there will be differences. It does not address eliminating
>>>>expectation
>>>>effects, based upon an expectation that they will sound the same. Thus,
>>>>this so-called "unbiased" test is actually quite biased towards
>>>>producing your "expected" results.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. Those tests are taken by people from both sides of the
>>> fence. The results are the same, only the reactions vary! :-)
>>>
>>
>>That they are taken by people from both sides is irrelevant.
>>Its the test design  that skews the results, so that they tend to
>>be the same
>
> Still the same old mantra, eh Sackman? The results do indeed tend to
> be the same. That's because most decent equipment really does sound
> the same, whatever guillible fools like you would like to believe.
>

Sure, it sounds the same to people who have
preconceived notions that it will sound the same. 



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