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"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:48:10 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:13:32 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
>>> <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Harry Lavo" <hlavo@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Clyde Slick" <YustabeSlim@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42d36070$1_2@spool9-east.superfeed.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since
>>>>>>>>they should all sound the same according to tests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In level-matched blind listening tests, these three
>>>>>>> players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clyde, don't you know that "expectation effects" only apply to those 
>>>>> of
>>>>> us
>>>>> who disagree?  Has nothing to do with those who *know* there is no
>>>>> difference.  :-)
>>>>
>>>>And the abx test removes our expectations, yet leaves their expectations
>>>>in.
>>>>It is a more biased test than subjective listening!!!
>>>>ABX is hideously flawed.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. What you mean is that ABX doesn't support your absolute
>>> knowledge that 'high-end' designer label gear *must* sound better than
>>> 'Chinky cheapies'.
>>> -- 
>>>
>>It doesn't support it because it is inherently designed
>>to purposefully support the opposite conclusion.
>>It is NOT a neutral test. It does not remove
>>the expectation effects of those who
>>have preconceived notions that there are no differences.
>
> Clearly you have no idea that these tests are used every day by major
> audio manufacturers, for the precise purpose of *revealing* small but
> real audible differences made by their R&D guys. Cretin.
>

And who are the subjects taking such tests? 



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