Re: Any Sony CD Guru out there?

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From: Clyde Slick
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:45

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"Howard Ferstler" <ferstle@attglobal.net> wrote in message 
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> Clyde Slick wrote:
>>
>> "Stewart Pinkerton" <patent3@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:eqm6d1p2dotgtu1j7vhck3gie5t6sbs3qk@4ax.com...
>> > On 11 Jul 2005 17:27:35 -0700, calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Arny isn't too keen on actually listening to audio products, since
>> >>they should all sound the same according to tests.
>
>> >In level-matched blind listening tests, these three
>> > players sound identical - as any reasonable person would expect.
>
>> Damn it, there are those pesky expectation effects again.
>
> You are just trying to rationalize the fact that you simply
> must have something exotic and esoteric to believe in. (That
> this involves audio gear and not some kind of religious
> deity and a need for salvation shows a monumental smallness
> of mind.) That you place expectation effects higher up on
> the scale than simply not hearing differences during a DBT
> says more about you as a true believer than it does about
> any kind of audio gear.
>


Take a good look at the test methodology, it only accounts
for eliminating one side of the expectation effects, the expectation
that there will be differences. It does not address eliminating expectation
effects, based upon an expectation that they will sound the same. Thus,
this so-called "unbiased" test is actually quite biased towards
producing your "expected" results.
the units 



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