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Article #667Re: HD RADIO is no worse than DAB or DRM radio
From: SFTV_troy
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:37
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:37
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Frank Dresser wrote: > <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > Frank Dresser wrote: > > > And more expenses for the broadcaster. > > > > They doesn't seem to be stopping them from adding second and third > > channels Like WIYY in Baltimore, which has *voluntarily* added > > Classic Rock and Indie Rock to their AOR primary station. Now > > listeners of that style have three times as much content to enjoy. > > But how is the extra programming being paid for? Advertising of course. Plus the money they save because Digital does not require as much power. > > Plus: If a smaller station can't afford multiple program, then they > > don't need to do anything. They can just limit themselves > > to 1 high-quality channel (300 kbps). > > Gee, maybe if some independant station can't afford multiple programming, > they'll have even have trouble justifying buying the IBOC hardware. It's not that expensive. No more expensive than a mono to stereo upgrade for an FM station. > > > 5.1 would be compromised in similar ways. > > > > And then the listeners of that Classic Music station would complain, > > and the manager would have to decide between (a) increasing > > bitrate or (b) losing customers. > > Yeah, there's a few stations in which true high fidelity > sound would matter. Not many. Agreed. But the advantage of the HE-AAC codec is you don't need a high bitrate to get FM quality. Only 24 is sufficient. At 64kbit/s you get near-CD quality. It's a VERY efficient compression standard. So a station could divide itself into 300 / 4 channels == 64-96 kbit/s per channel, and still have quality ranging from near-CD to CD. > > People in Canada, Japan, and Australia bought AM Stereo radio in > > droves. Why? Because there was a single standard, not the 4-way mess > > the FCC left behind. (It's similar to today's HD DVD versus Blu-ray > > battle; most people are just waiting to see who wins.) > > Oh? A great many radios sold in the US are the same as the radios > sold in other countries and AM stereo still pretty rare here. Because by the time the U.S. fixed on a standard (circa 1990), the AM Stereo stations had largely disappeared. Thus there's no impetus for customers to upgrade. In contrast, Japan and Canada and Australia had a fixed standard in the early 80s, thus giving consumers confidence that they were not wasting money the next Betamax. > > I already agreed with you that HQ is not going to motivate people to > > upgrade. It will be seeing their favorite FM stations split into 3 or > > 4 programs, thus tripling their options, that will motive people. > > > Are they carrying commercials [on secondary channels]? > And I'm sure a fellow as clever and imaginative as you are can figure > how they might try to make money even if there aren't enough listeners > to sell commercial advertising. > Hint: They won't call it "HD radio" I have no idea what you have in mind as an alternative to commercial- support. > > In my markets (Lancaster, York, Harrisburg, Baltimore)..... > > Baltimore, huh? Got any friends at ibiquity? Sorry. There are roughly 50 million people living in the Philly- Wilmington-Baltimore-DC "megaopolis". The odds of me meeting someone from iBiquity, by sheer random event, are about nil. > HD radio does little to aid the health of the radio industry in general, but > it may be harmful to those people who are trying to run a small time low > profit station. My "smalltime" low-profit Christian station seems to be doing alright. They happily embraced the new technology, streaming out 3 separate programs.
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