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Article #2150Spirit's and Re: First plane (sailplane) advice?
From: Chris Kaiser
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:11
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:11
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In article <1iq1gj$4qu@agate.berkeley.edu>, hartzell@cs.Berkeley.EDU (George Hartzell) writes: > > I'm currently building my first plane, a 2 meter sailplane. I started > with a Gnome that I bought from Northeast Sailplanes, but got > frustrated (8 pages of instructions, no diagrams or pictures, not the > best first timers plane) and bought a Great Planes Spirit. I'm much > happier, it has an _excellent_ instruction manual and the parts are > easy to work with. They have a larger version, the Spirit 100, which > got rave reviews in one of the magazines recently. It's a lot more > expensive though ($80 vs. $35) and seemed excessive for something I'm > likely to turn into matchsticks. Maybe my next one though. The Spirit's are nice planes to build (and fly), but the wing joiner is a weak point. I think the latest kits now have an aluminium lamination in the wing joiner assembly rather than all plywood - this really is an essential modification. If you intend to winch launch the Spirit a stronger wing joiner-box assembly is also a good idea, but not necessary as long as you take care and are gentle on the launch. As for the Spirit 100 - apparently the wing is weak just outside the wing joiner-box and benefits from some extra ply webbing. > Another plane to consider is the Airtronics Olympic 650 (though it's > also a 2 meter plane). It got some good reviews, and is the example > plane in the book "Sailplane and Soaring Manual" by Al Doig, from R/C > Modeler Magazine. The book has great pictures and instructions (about > building, testing, and flying [theory and practice]), if you ordered > the plans from RCM you could easily scratch build one from the book. > That plus the kit instructions (which are also supposed to be good) > should make an excellent first plane. > > One nice thing about the Gnome and the Spirit are that they have a > spoiler option, which many people suggest is worth having (it seems > reasonable to me...). I don't know if the Oly does or not. I agree that the spoiler option is worth having - it makes spot landings much easier. I also slope soar mine in light to medium winds and the spoilers make it much easier to get down in tight landing areas. However for a beginner it's another control to worry about (and spoilers are useful rather than necessary). > Of course, I don't know anything about flying these things yet, so > both of these planes might be totally inappropriate (especially if > you're set on a bigger plane). I decided that I'd be happier > successfully building something, even it if wasn't the hottest plane > in the air. That'll come later... People seem to thing that the > Spirit is a fine plane though. The Spirit is a beautiful plane to fly - it's stable and easy to handle, but also very manouverable. I've slope-raced mine with about 1/2 Kg (over 1 pound) of lead ballast - I was almost as fast as the aileron models in a straight line and quicker round the turns. There are several modified Spirits flying in our club. One guy learnt on one and gave it a **very** hard time - it's still flys very nicely although it's a lot heavier than it started out... mods include fully sheeted leading edges (top & bottom) out to the tip with wire on the very front (survives mid-airs very well!) and glass reinforcing in the fuse (the fuse is probably nearly all cyano and glass now...). Another guy has one with severe strengthening in the wings - he zoom launches it off winches (F3B style) and has done a 40sec F3B speed run with it... not competitive but pretty quick for a floater! > > I also need recommendations on books about sailplanes (building > >and flying) and radios. (As my kids will eventually push me into > >power I thought I'd go with a good 4ch setup.) Even if you stick with gliders you may end up using 4 (or more) channels - rudder, elevator, ailerons and flaps. With a model like this it's useful to be able to mix aileron to rudder channels, and also flap to elevator - something to consider when looking for a radio. Chris Kaiser Postgrad, Elec. Eng. Dept. University of Canterbury Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!canterbury.ac.nz!betelgeux!kaiser Newsgroups: rec.models.rc Subject: Spirit's and Re: First plane (sailplane) advice? Message-ID: <C0oEIM.B4@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> From: kaiser@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Chris Kaiser) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:11:09 GMT References: <73179@cup.portal.com> <1iq1gj$4qu@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand Nntp-Posting-Host: betelgeux.canterbury.ac.nz Lines: 82