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Re: Heraldic Questions...

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From: Hossein Ali Qomi (mka Gregory F....
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:22
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Moreach writes:

>The color-on-color issue is sort of a red herring, really. I can prove that
>there were quite a few examples of this "heresy" right in Merrie Old
>England, and in Tadhg's time-period. I've seen them (they're mostly pretty
>horrid, BTW). 

A minor point, but I wouldn't call much of anything in the age of the
Irish missions heraldry at all.  St. Columbanus is rather too early
for that.  Remember, Tadhg is an _old_ (i.e., early period) bugger.

>Oh Tadhg, lighten up! I have people in my shire who are perfectly able to
>design their own armory with very little tinkering from a herald, once they
>have the rules. Not every non-herald is a no-talent twit, you know. The
>SCA is crawling with artists and artisans. For heaven's sake, this isn't
>the local Moose Lodge...

I think you are _exactly_ wrong there.  Most SCA heralds have a smattering
of SCA heraldry and not much else.  With a few notable exceptions there
is almost no one in the Society who has made a systematic, serious study
of medieval armoury at the level of, say, a senior undergraduate thesis.
The only sense in which the SCA isn't like the local Moose Lodge is that
we dress funny, tell the IRS we are an educational foundation, and are
rather more tolerant of socially marginal behavior.

>Piffle. Get a peerage in something else. All work and no play makes Jack
>a dull boy. Have Vashti teach you to dance. Play music. Cook. 

Just as an aside, he's a rather fine embroiderer and, for my money, one
of the better scholars in the SCA (although I grant that he can be rude,
crude and marginally socially acceptable, but I find those some of his
more endearing attributes -- Tadhg's really a much nicer person than
he would have the world believe).

Hossein/Greg
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