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In article <1993Jan11.180437.27297@progress.com> schuldy@progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei) writes:

>Thank you!  Those manuals that [Steve Hick] described, do they
>portray rapier style duelling and swordfighting, or a martial art more like
>the heavy list style that we do?

More like "heavy list" stuff, on the whole...

>And, if they do describe tournament style martial arts, how well does our
>recreation compare to them?

The two are not notably close in style and execution ... on paper.
It is, however, a difficult call to make.  There are, for instance,
people who fight in the SCA in styles that resemble the style of the
Tower fechtbuch.  On the whole, however, the two are quite different,
especially as regards sword blocking techniques.

Caveat:  this off-the-cuff analysis is an off-the-cuff analysis based
on casual reading of the new Tower fechtbuch translation still in progress.

>The argument that I'm making, should be clear.
>I'm not arguing that our fencing is a superlative simulation of period
>rapier dueling.  What I would argue is that our heavy list fighting is
>no better.

Probably true.

On the other hand, heavy-weapons helmets frequently look mediaeval.
Fencing masks never do.


>(I might further make the argument that given the level of documentation,
>our rapier dueling may turn out to be more authenticable, and eventually
>more authentic, but I haven't done enough reading, thinking or talking
>with people to be sure.)

I would be very surprised if that were the case, so long as modern
swords are used.

Aryk Nusbacher