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Article #2698Re: 1/2, 1/3, boy girl the answer to life & everything
From: J. Theodore Schuerzinger
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:48
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:48
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In article <C1J1GE.5wy@news.rich.bnr.ca> bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash) writes: > >From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) > > Everything stated is corect, until this: > > A coin is tossed twice. You are told that *at least* one of the tosses > > produced heads. What is the probabilty that THE SECOND (and *not* the > > first!) toss produced heads to make both tosses heads. In this case, > > the permutations of HT and TH are distinhuished and different. the > > answer now is 1/3. People read the original question and see the above > > one, because it's easy to make this mistake. > > What is the prob. that the 2nd toss is heads and not the first, making > both tosses > heads? Zero! If the first toss is not heads, then they can't be both heads! > I think you want to re-state this. > I think this is what you mean: > > A coin is tossed twice. You know that *at least* one of the tosses is heads. > What is the prob. that the second toss is heads? Ans = 2/3. > What is the prob. that they are both heads? Ans = 1/3. > > > > The main point with the sibling/coin problem is whether or not the the > probabilities are independent or not. If you say "One is x, what is the > prob. that the other is also x?", then the probabilities are independent and > the fact that "One is x" doesn't change anything. If you say "At least > one is x > (out of two), what is the prob. that number 2 is x?" links the prob.s because > if the first is not-x, then the second _must_ be x, so the answer is different. > > Does this sound reasonable? (I got nailed for missing this on the > first pass :) > > Brian /-|-\ But what would the answer be if Monty Hall asked the question? :-) --Ted Schuerzinger email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU "I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said was 'Russian Vodka'."
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!rtech!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!dartvax!J.Theodore.Schuerzinger From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles Subject: Re: 1/2, 1/3, boy girl the answer to life & everything Message-ID: <C1Jp97.9Lx@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Date: 28 Jan 93 03:48:42 GMT References: <1993Jan27.112827.26276@cbfsb.cb.att.com> <C1J1GE.5wy@news.rich.bnr.ca> Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 47 X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu